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Big A
:D no more message :D  

23 Feb 2007 19:25
Aaar0n
You can't compare pot to gear because gear is much more deeper and intense than marijuanna.

The difficult thing is this.
She has made up her decision about you using gear. It's not tolerated.
However, you could educate her about it. Perhaps this will loosen her thoughts about it, and you using it. Maybe tell your wife that you will get a doctor involved to monitor your blood work ect.

Again.. Your wife isn't comfortable with it. You can try and persude her. But, I don't think anything will change.

She's your wife ...and in my opinion, if she's not comfortable with you using gear. Than I wouldn't.. Unless you are willing to give up everything you have with her, than go for it.

You could try and hide your gear use... you really could.. however, I wouldn't recommend it, obviously.  

23 Feb 2007 20:41
Big A
yeah thing is im not lookin to get deep into it, lil oral stuff is all im talkin, but yeah im not doing anything while im married, as far as education goes i think the brick wall would understand it faster, she doesnt want to hear about it so i cant get her to understand any of it.  

23 Feb 2007 23:20
estray
Sounds like a double standard to me.  

23 Feb 2007 23:23
JDIESEL
BIG A me and my gf fight all the time about this subject....i honestly think she would handle me doing crack better than steroids......the best way to make her understand is by trying to educate her and talk to her about it....women think by takin steroids your gonna become some raged monster who is gonna be sterile and impotent the rest of your lift  

23 Feb 2007 23:28
Big A
yeah kinda funny how that works isnt it JD, ive tried to make her understand, im like look they are giving our kids albeuterol (sp?) so it must not be that bad of a thing. im like when yr really sick what is given steroids but she just doesnt see it.  

23 Feb 2007 23:40
JDIESEL
just do it and dont tell her:hi: i mean when you put on 20lbs of muscle just say that protein has a kick to it lol:thumbs:  

24 Feb 2007 00:25
Big A
[QUOTE=JDIESEL]just do it and dont tell her:hi: i mean when you put on 20lbs of muscle just say that protein has a kick to it lol:thumbs:[/QUOTE]


LMAO good idea but one lil issue shes gettin paranoid about it she opens all of my mail now at least boxes K?zg?n a bill can lay in her car for a month but as soon as a box with my name on it comes in its ripped open and gone through, call the cops on her for mail tampering :laughing:  

24 Feb 2007 00:35
AMERFOOTBALL
kick her in the face, slash her throat, then **** her and burn the body. then proceed to buy and do all the drugs you want. end of problem Wink  

24 Feb 2007 02:43
Dex
hmmm, i like that approach. OR you can educate her and tell her you'll kick her out and call the cops cuz she doesnt like it! tables have turned!!!  

24 Feb 2007 02:46
JDIESEL
lol there ya go dex call the cops and say ya i would like to report my wife cuz she is gettin pissed that i just ordered some steroids lol  

24 Feb 2007 02:49
Dex
i'll pretend im a cop and arrest her Biggie. she wont know what hit her! muhahaha  

24 Feb 2007 02:50
Enickma
Don't let Dex near you wife with handcuffs....  

24 Feb 2007 03:20
Enickma
Women don't think like we do...women deal in feelings. To get through to her you've got to kick it on her level. In my experience, women respond to very specific kinds of interaction.

In all seriousness man...I'd sit her down free of any interruptions (out to dinner perhaps), tell her you need to have a serious talk and say something like:

"I've been thinking about something lately. Remember when you told me you'd leave me if I ever used steroids? That's been bothering me, not because I want to do steroids, but because you're so willing to put utlimatums on our relationship as if it's some fickle bargaining chip for you. I thought I meant more to you than that? And then when I make the effort to explain things to you, you act like you don't even want to hear what I have to say. Even if it's something I feel stongly against, if you've got something important to say you know I'd listen. I don't deserve the same? I need you to recognize that I'm not an idiot, or a child, and you don't make my decisions for me. If you've got a big problem with steroids I'm perfectly willing to listen to what you have to say, but we need to start talking about this and everything else like grownups from now on."

Then shut up, maintain eye contact, and see what she has to say.

Or you could kill her and eat her...or whatever Amer said...that would work too.  

24 Feb 2007 03:46
estray
[QUOTE=AMERFOOTBALL]kick her in the face, slash her throat, then **** her and burn the body. then proceed to buy and do all the drugs you want. end of problem Wink[/QUOTE]

Give the carcass to Dex when youre done so he can go a couple rounds with it too.:laughing:  

24 Feb 2007 05:09
canibalistic_js
Bro if you want to use gear which you shouldn't unless your below 10% bf I wouldn't. Next, if you want to use gear give her a little history about the grinded up test injections the russian olympic weight lifting team used. It was grinded up sheep testes.  

24 Feb 2007 05:11
MegaA
Man enickma is good at this - something tells me he has done this before.

At the end of the day bro she is saying it for your own good out of love not hate however I don't think the way she said it is nice. She could fo discussed it with you first and then at the end of it said "I don;t think I could stay with you if you used roids after you knowing how I feel about them etc etc" HOWEVER she just said If yuo use roids i'm goin - made it like a take it or leave it situation like really was not interested in discussing which is wrong amongst any relationship wether between friends, emplyer employee relationship or a relationship between partners.

Taking all tha t into account though I think good has come out of what she said as she showed that she does care about you and you would much rather have a response like that as opposed to a response of "hey hunm what do you tink about me taking roids"

"I don;t really care do what you feel like".  

24 Feb 2007 12:21
estray
We got BigA and MegaA in this thread. Whats next, GiganticA?  

24 Feb 2007 21:17
Enickma
Fukin' A  

24 Feb 2007 23:02
MegaA
MegaA has nothing to do with size. Mega A = Megas Alexandros (Greek) - Megas Alexadros = Alexander the Great - the famous Greek Warrior King.  

25 Feb 2007 10:31
Dozzy_X
ooo check u out, u big warrior king  

25 Feb 2007 16:29
lil bit
Uh-oh, someone's getting excited!!:laughing:

Seriously, I like Enickma's advice...the first half, that is....

I used to be dead set against my ex using steroids, but I let him show me the websites, the books, and the more I understood, the more that I was ok with it. Quite honestly, the only reason that I was against them was because I thought that they would endanger HIM, not me....yes, women think emotionally, but for me, the mindset was also to protect what I love...you'll find that some women share that tendency.

If someone grows up around something, it becomes acceptable by default. She may not recognize the double standard. But ask yourself something. Does she always act so stubborn and unreasoning? Or is it only over things that really matter to her, things that could endanger you, her, or your life together? If she's been raised to believe that steroids will do that, if you ever get her to listen to you, you may want to remember to show her that they won't.  

25 Feb 2007 18:29
A.B
Im against telling anyone.. just my mentality... been in the game too long and people will remain ignorant on subjects they know nothing about... I would save yourself the trouble  

26 Feb 2007 19:08
Big A
wow i step away for a couple days and boom, all the advice in the world. i never thought killin her would be in there but hey. thanx for all the info everyone. ill start puttin some of it to use, key word some.  

26 Feb 2007 19:12
canibalistic_js
[QUOTE=A.B]Im against telling anyone.. just my mentality... been in the game too long and people will remain ignorant on subjects they know nothing about... I would save yourself the trouble[/QUOTE]

Huge bump^ what he said bc your wife is going to get hormonal and if she knows its going to be "your on steroids and having a ROID RAGE!!!!" while she spits peas soup and her head twists around.  

26 Feb 2007 19:45
Big A
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]Huge bump^ what he said bc your wife is going to get hormonal and if she knows its going to be "your on steroids and having a ROID RAGE!!!!" while she spits peas soup and her head twists around.[/QUOTE]


:laughing: im glad im not the only one who sees that :laughing:

its also one of those things im not gonna hide it either, just cause i dont want her hiding stuff from me, even though i know she does K?zg?n , im not lookin to do that. also as far as yr last post about the 10%bf im actually lookin clen/var/eca thing, im thinkin eca 2wks on 1wk off, while on that one week off 1wk clen, and also var in the mix. like i said im lookin at things to help with the cut, i know the var will be tryin to add LBM which i dont care about LBM if i can see a diff. in muscle compared to the fat thats no big deal if the scales reads me as heavier.  

26 Feb 2007 20:11
JDIESEL
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]Huge bump^ what he said bc your wife is going to get hormonal and if she knows its going to be "your on steroids and having a ROID RAGE!!!!" while she spits peas soup and her head twists around.[/QUOTE]



lol there PMS is by far worse than ne roid rage people claim to have.....  

26 Feb 2007 20:36
Big A
yeah and its unstable, i think nitro glyceren (sp) is safer to work with LMAO  

26 Feb 2007 20:38
aiminHigh
just keep her blasted on pot, then load up on roids :D  

26 Feb 2007 20:47
canibalistic_js
Yea then your second or third cycle you'll be on tren and after a week or tren-somnia around week 8 and something else will be wearing on your patience and you'll have a conniption  

26 Feb 2007 20:49
aiminHigh
i got a solution!!! inject her wit roids when she is asleep, then in the mourning say, you cant tell me what not to do when u had some last night :D  

26 Feb 2007 20:57
Big A
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]Yea then your second or third cycle you'll be on tren and after a week or tren-somnia around week 8 and something else will be wearing on your patience and you'll have a conniption[/QUOTE]

what r u sayin cani? your not saying that this stuff is kind of addictive are ya :screwy:

:laughing: tren-somnia


aiminhigh

not such a hot idea im not even lookin to inject myself let alone someone else LMAO  

26 Feb 2007 21:27
canibalistic_js
[QUOTE=Big A]what r u sayin cani? your not saying that this stuff is kind of addictive are ya :screwy:

:laughing: tren-somnia


aiminhigh

not such a hot idea im not even lookin to inject myself let alone someone else LMAO[/QUOTE]

I'm saying it all starts with "just one cycle" :D lmao  

26 Feb 2007 21:35
Big A
kinda like tryin to eat just one lays chip huh :laughing:  

26 Feb 2007 21:37
canibalistic_js
Pretty much or pringel or cheese cake but for me strawberry shortcake and icecream  

26 Feb 2007 21:38
canibalistic_js
I whip icecream, whipcream, and the strawberries together and serve it like that  

26 Feb 2007 21:39
Big A
nice that sounds really good guess ill go eat some chicken now since i cant have that Sad  

26 Feb 2007 21:46
WhiteUnit
I find that most women just dont want their man improving the way they look. It can only mean competition to them. I dated a girl for three years who was always completely against me working out, and then she got in shape and I ended up competing for her, lol.

Thats how I got in bad shape in the first place... Anyway, I doubt she will actually leave you, shes probably just scared that your going to eventually leave her.  

27 Feb 2007 19:55
Big A
hahaha yeah she should have thought about that crap before she cheated on me, she should know better if im still here after that whole saga i dont forsee myself going anywhere. you are right though they seem to have issues with that kinda stuff  

27 Feb 2007 20:00
estray
She cheated on you and know she gives you an ultimatum like that? Thats the kinda shit you use against her bro!Hi  

27 Feb 2007 20:01
Big A
hahaha yeah i know i should but im not gonna throw that up in her face, ive ground that into the dirt hardcore as is, doesnt mean im done but im not gonna use all my leverage for gear. its not something that i cant live without, just something i would like to incorporate into my routine for a lil extra help, cause im quite sick of this cut thing lol.


****holy crap im gonna have 50 posts in today alone man lol CANI im coming for ya :laughing  

27 Feb 2007 20:07
canibalistic_js
Oh yea uhmm. Don't run var and the whole cycle  

27 Feb 2007 20:39
Big A
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]Oh yea uhmm. Don't run var and the whole cycle[/QUOTE]


right i was just think like a 6wk run possibly 8wk 40mg ed  

27 Feb 2007 20:47
will power
i wouldn't consider those who use gear as drug users. They don't do it to get mental stimulation. they do it to better themselves. When was the last time you saw a drug addict shooting up because it was going to better themselves.  

27 Feb 2007 20:53
Big A
kinda what i was getting at although they are still considered users, our muscles are our mental high :D  

27 Feb 2007 20:58

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