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tknight4305
Testosterone Cypionate: 1cc Monday and Thursday so Ill be getting 500mg a week for 10 weeks.

100mg of clomid for 2weeks and I would need to take the clomid everyday 14 days after my last test shot. 30 days worth of nolva (just in case)

What do yall think about this for first cycle?????



How much of my gains will I be able to keep??  

26 Apr 2006 07:34
bignready
i would go with 3 weks like cuts said.but looks good.well thought out.have some nolva on hand in case of gyno  

26 Apr 2006 11:28
androgenic_mastr
great cycle mate - run pct like this mate -


Day 1-3: 300 mg clomid ED , 40 mg nolvadex ED
Day 4 - 6 : 200 mg clomid ED, 40 mg nolvadex ED
Day 7 - 9 : 100 mg clomid ED , 20 mg nolvadex ED
Day 10 - 12: 50 mg clomid ED , 20 mg nolvadex ED
Day 13 - 15: 25mg clomid ED , 10 mg nolvadex ED



up the calories and protein at the end and u shld keep 90% of ur gains  

26 Apr 2006 11:49
tknight4305
If i wanted to inject just once a week what should the dosage be?  

27 Apr 2006 00:52
bignready
same dosage. 500 mg  

27 Apr 2006 01:07
Storm
retarded  

27 Apr 2006 01:50
bignready
be nice stormy  

27 Apr 2006 02:38
Storm
Well check out all hs posts he has been all over the place does very little to no research he is only like 19 I belive don't recall his stats bt I am sure they need work..So I call it like I see it at times was nice to start but now every post is what about this what about that...So again retarded..  

27 Apr 2006 03:12
president_fad
[QUOTE=Storm]Well check out all hs posts he has been all over the place does very little to no research he is only like 19 I belive don't recall his stats bt I am sure they need work..So I call it like I see it at times was nice to start but now every post is what about this what about that...So again retarded..[/QUOTE]

:thumbs: Bravo :D Wink Hi  

27 Apr 2006 03:45
tknight4305
thanks for the low ballin....storm and fad.......but personally i really dont care wut yall think.....  

27 Apr 2006 04:49
tknight4305
To everyone else.....thanks for the posts...  

27 Apr 2006 04:50
president_fad
[QUOTE=tknight4305]thanks for the low ballin....storm and fad.......but personally i really dont care wut yall think.....[/QUOTE]


ur 18 like 160, im pre sure u dont need to cycle.  

27 Apr 2006 05:11
tknight4305
I appreciate it kyle.....the point of this forum is to info...thats why people are on here....not everyone knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING with gear like you STORM.....:laughing:  

27 Apr 2006 06:11
illsniggles
theres points on both sides, but inevitably an unwinnable arguement.  

27 Apr 2006 06:14
tknight4305
I know we are not suppose to talk prices on here....someone PM me cuz i have a question....  

27 Apr 2006 07:23
president_fad
some people cant justify giving info to 18 year olds wanting to use steroids.  

27 Apr 2006 07:46
president_fad
everyone is entitled to their own opinion.  

27 Apr 2006 08:06
Storm
how ironic  

27 Apr 2006 09:07
bignready
after realizing your age i must say i agree with storm.although in a nicer way.i have more patience with children.now grow natuarally.why screw up your body,you still have alot to offer it without drugs.twaek your diet and workout and people will think your using.  

27 Apr 2006 12:22
AMERFOOTBALL
[QUOTE=Storm]how ironic[/QUOTE]

LOL...  

27 Apr 2006 15:51
cwshorns
listen tknight, Noone is trying to be a dick it's just apparent you have no idea what you're about to do to your body. It's frustrating for older people that have been working out for years to sit on here and give out advice that most young people aren't going to listen to anyway. Too many young lifters think that aas is the answer to their little man syndrome(not saying you have this) and all yuo really do is f up your bodies because you really don't even know how to lift correctly yet. So if people are quick to judge or write a harsh comment it's only because we've had these conversations time and time again with kids like you and you really don't give a sh*t what we have to say because your mind is made up. If you do a little searching on this forum all of the answers to your questions have been answered in different threads. good luck  

27 Apr 2006 18:10
jcvaughn26
SkinnyManKyle this forum is for advice. We have gave our advice and he doesn't listen he shouldn't be doing any aas. So if he's asking for advice he got it, now if he keeps asking the same question he's opening himself up to be flamed. He needs to use his head, plain and simple. He hasn't reached anywhere near his genetic potential.  

27 Apr 2006 20:09
canibalistic_js
Y'all need to quit yer crying about everything and make it good if you ask a question but more importantly most of these questions have been asked on the board and be obtained via the search engine located at the top.  

27 Apr 2006 21:24
jcvaughn26
[QUOTE=SkinnyManKyle]i didnt know he already asked this question[/QUOTE]

Not this specific question but AAS in general and we already said he shouldn't jump the gun, but he's going to do it anyway.  

27 Apr 2006 21:42
canibalistic_js
I don't get it. what does it all mean?  

27 Apr 2006 22:45
tknight4305
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]I don't get it. what does it all mean?[/QUOTE]


I just was askin about Test. and they jumped on me saying i was too young but there are people on here that started gear at 18.....i think tho if im going to do it that yall should still give me good advice so i wont just do it all wrong.... i have been training for about 4years now...im not one of these guys that come on here and say "i just started lifting 2 months ago and i want to use gear" Even if im not at my full potential of growth i do have the training experience......so atleast give me good advice on how to use it correctly...im not 100% sure yet if i am going to use gear...i just want to know how to use it right....  

28 Apr 2006 00:26
canibalistic_js
Ok. if you're hardheaded goahead and run it  

28 Apr 2006 00:31
cowcountry
I think you have to ask yourself a potentially life changing question tknight...

What/why do you plan on running steroids? Are you going to or do you have aspirations of becoming a professional athlete/bodybuilder???

If so, you are going to be hard pressed to start running immediately as your competition is most likely running now and at an even earlier age. However, understand that you ARE taking years off your life for this goal.

If no, then WHY???  

28 Apr 2006 00:45
tknight4305
I mean....im not saying im GOING to FORSURE use gear i am just thinking about it.....i dont have it or anything but i can get it.....The reason that i am wanting to use gear i guess i because i am sumwhat of a hard gainer.....pound for pound i am strong i just dont have the mass....right now i weigh 160 and bench press 270lbs.....im strong...ripped...and very proportioned i just can not seem to get any mass...just stronger....i guess it is just my high metabolism....i eat...use protein...and supps....just cant get any MASS......  

28 Apr 2006 00:56
bignready
what are you saying cow?i'm on a cycle and i don't intend to enter a comp.and i'm not a pro athlete.i agree he's too young.but your speaking to many of us who are responsible and old enough to use gear in a safe manner.please explain what you mean?  

28 Apr 2006 01:00
cowcountry
[QUOTE=bignready]what are you saying cow?i'm on a cycle and i don't intend to enter a comp.and i'm not a pro athlete.i agree he's too young.but your speaking to many of us who are responsible and old enough to use gear in a safe manner.please explain what you mean?[/QUOTE]


All I'm saying is I just don't see a point in it. ANYBODY can gain if trained properly and eating proportionately. It takes practice to find out what proportion of fats/carbs/protein your body responds to best, but once you find it you can stick with it and train naturally to gain (Really rough estimate) 10lbs of quality muscle a year or more depending on many many variables such as age, hormone levels, experience, etc...

analogy: would you spend the hours/days/months/years going through medical school only to become a locomotive engineer??? NO! So, why when you can achieve the body that is deemed "Attractive" without using AAS would you want to run them? 90% of all people who use AAS come off and end up losing most if not all of thier gains becuase they don't have the will/desire/need to continue properly eating and working out.

[B]It's just my opinion[/B] but based upon facts and numbers I don't see a need for the average joe to run AAS without the intent upon building upon thier use for monetary compensation.  

28 Apr 2006 01:06
bignready
alot of people lose their gains after a cycle cuz of improper pct and/or losing interest in training but not 90%.that's a ridiculus number.many of us do it the right way and have a desire to gain without or without drugs.  

28 Apr 2006 01:14
cowcountry
Ok, I'll give you the fact that I don't have any research to back the 90% claim but the overwhelming majority aren't on this or other boards getting the info they need to be getting. From what I've seen in the gyms and locker rooms growing up, the vast majority of people go to the gym with the intent on doing NOTHING to thier bodies. No routine, no diet, no intent on changing thier shape other than a hope and a prayer.

Unfortunately, these are the same people that decide to use AAS. Personally, I think sites such as this one are KEY in getting people the proper motivation needed in order to achieve the goals they have in mind. But again, the vast majority of people aren't keeping a log or doing things right.  

28 Apr 2006 01:21
Storm
The vast majority don't listen that is the bottom line...  

28 Apr 2006 01:35
cowcountry
[QUOTE=Storm]The vast majority don't listen that is the bottom line...[/QUOTE]


A-Fckin-Men!  

28 Apr 2006 01:43
canibalistic_js
and....who are you?  

28 Apr 2006 01:46
cowcountry
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]and....who are you?[/QUOTE]


Isn't that why we have privacy standards on these sites???  

28 Apr 2006 01:50
canibalistic_js
I want to laugh but that was out of left field, unless you're serious. Anyhow, I don't thik knight is going to listen  

28 Apr 2006 01:51
bignready
alot of peopl don't do it right,but alot do  

28 Apr 2006 01:51
bignready
i think canibal's right.he won't listen.youth is wasted on the young  

28 Apr 2006 01:52
Storm
Well it is proven on the boards everyday how so many jump into gear and shit falls aprt after that not only on a physcial level but a mental level..Been said to death by these fingers and this mouth takes alot of mature resposibility to use gear and be the right person for this lifestlye and so many just don't get that until it is to late..  

28 Apr 2006 01:55
president_fad
i think too many people jump on gear, and dont have everything in check like you really need to. Its even harder at a young age, with school, going out n shit. I just started an ew job, its ****ed my sleep up, my training has gone to shit, and ive lost ten lbs. Its so easy to get off track, thats why i dont even run gear. most people dont stick with it, and lose most if not all they have gained a couple monthes down the road cus they dont make a life committment.  

28 Apr 2006 05:02
tknight4305
To everyone who said that i wont listen....I will….i am open minded……I am just so frustrated with being a hard gainer…ive always been a hard gainer…I come from a big football town and I was very fast and strong but never had the weight to block the big a#$ line backers……I younger brother is the complete opposite..he is 2 years younger than me and weighs 175-180 and I only weigh 160…we are about the same strength wise but he is a lot more massive then me and yall know that I always catch SH#$@ from other people cuz he is younger but bigger and that is another reason I have considered gear….yeah, yall can say F#$@ the people who talk [email]Sh@$...but[/email] if you have never lived it you wouldn’t really know how it felt to be low balled by people like that…….  

28 Apr 2006 06:46
Storm
Uh mnay of have lived alot of things again your still young you have to mature some later then others..I never really tried to gain weight wheni was in HS and I was around 170-80 when I graduated hell I probaly broke 200 whenI was 19 or 20..Doesn't really matter now does it I am bigger then anyone in my HS ever dreamed of I still see a few guys here and there who thought they were the shit in HS and they are pathetic lard asses with no motivation..  

28 Apr 2006 07:12
tknight4305
man i need some adive.....how should i train for mass....what should i eat..how much should i eat....what supps should i take.....i am open for anything that will help me gain some mass....  

28 Apr 2006 07:23
tknight4305
ive used the Mass Stack once and it worked pretty well....thanks for your comment kyle....

Anyone Else?????  

28 Apr 2006 07:35
Storm
Well first and for most calm down and back up you are expecting way to much out of yourself..The key to all of this is hard work being smart and consistant..

It si all a learning process you can't rush b/c over time as you do it that wil become your foundation of knowledge and that will lead to wisdom..This is what seperates the true warriors ans the art time fakes that cloud up the world that is why we stand out and they do not..

Main thing for you to do is learn to eat better and be consistant with it no skippin meals ALWAYS eat breakfast never ever miss that meal EVER!! Invest what you can in some good protein shakes and make sure you eat 3-4 whole food meals alongwith 1-2 shakes a day..

Train smart and as heavy as you can go with good form do not sacrifice good form to put up bigger weight that is stupid and will get you hurt which will put you behind..

Keep your rep range no more then 10 and no less then 5 with your last 2-3 sets being failure..You will have to take time to learn what your body responds to set wise that is dif for alot of people my legs do well with high volume others don't so that again will take time..

So again this is a lifestale so it takes time as it will cover your lifetime it won;t come easy and what you gain form it by doing it right will get you more respect then you could have ever gotten by jumping on the juice early..I see it all the time and I say it all the time those who listen find out the truth those who don't well then dont matter now do they....Storm  

28 Apr 2006 07:37
tknight4305
that helps alot storm....I appreciate the comment….any comments on supps that would be helpful?? I am using Whey protein, mega men multi vitamins, and I just started Animal paks “stack 2” yesterday..and of course No-Xplode….anything else that you know of that might help???

I took some before pics on Monday and I will post the before pics and after pics when I feel like I have make some noticeable gains….  

28 Apr 2006 07:45
bignready
all you need is food and whey(for post workout)creatine is good also.juat train and eat EAT EAT.don't forget to sleep well or you won't grow at all  

28 Apr 2006 11:53
Storm
I didn;t have 10% of the supss you guys have avail to you today and I did just fine..I used the animal packs for a bit but other then that it waqs nasty (at the time) protein shakes and alot of freaking food..

Takes alot to get there but it is easy and does not take as much to mantain as it did to get to it...So it does get a little easier once you have gotten to a certain area..  

28 Apr 2006 15:50
androgenic_mastr
[QUOTE=tknight4305]man i need some adive.....how should i train for mass....what should i eat..how much should i eat....what supps should i take.....i am open for anything that will help me gain some mass....[/QUOTE]

you want to use steroids but u dont no what to eat and when etc?
consume 50 grams of protein every 2-3 hours and drink alot of water. Rice is good its clean carbs with little fat.  

29 Apr 2006 05:24

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