t3/clen/var?

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AMERFOOTBALL
i know ill prob end up getting flamed pretty bad for this, but i have been considering running t3/clen/ and anavar together (no test). obviously doing a ramp on the t3 and alternating the time off with clen and running the anavar for 6 weeks at 50mg ed. want to maintain muscle while on t3 and figured the anavar could help with that. any thoughts?  

13 Apr 2006 20:58
Robfromny
i used only var for 6weeks once. @ 20 -30mg a day and like the results, but i dont know about stacked with t3 cuz i dont know if it will retain enough mass, but worth a shot. gotta get to know your body sumhow... whats the worst that can happen, you lose muscle... big deal, start over i say.  

13 Apr 2006 21:25
estray
Why not take t4 then? T3 can be catabolic.  

13 Apr 2006 22:11
illsniggles
isnt t4 just a weaker t3, so its less side effects, but less fat loss.  

13 Apr 2006 22:20
estray
T4 supposedly wont attack lean muscle whereas T3 will as it wont make the distinction between muscle and fat. If you run t3 you should prolly run test with it.  

13 Apr 2006 22:34
illsniggles
I was thinkin about doin Clen/t3/ and a fat burner.

But Clen/T4 would be better?  

13 Apr 2006 22:36
estray
There is no real solid answer. Thyroid hormones are very complicated. T4 does convert to t3 but not at the same rate for everybody. Thats what complicates the whole thing. But if I were gonna run one without test, It would be t4/clen. t3/clen/test would be pretty cool though.  

13 Apr 2006 22:39
illsniggles
i might stay away from it alltogether then, prob just run clen and something else...  

13 Apr 2006 22:41
estray
I been thinkin about t3 cause I got alot lying around the house as my daughter has a thyroid condition. Haha. I can get it real easy. I just dont know if I wanne even mess with it.  

13 Apr 2006 22:45
canibalistic_js
At what doses are you running everything. I would imagine your not running 50mgs of clen but why don't you post your planned cycle. I am running t-3 now and I ran it before both with and without clen but never tried t-4. T-3 works great but as previously stated you have to be anabolic.  

13 Apr 2006 22:45
AMERFOOTBALL
i was planning on t3 50/50/100/100/150/150/200/200/200/150/150/100/100/50, then two weeks off running clen those two weeks at 150-200mcg/day (done this before with little sides) and then going back to the t3 except at 100/100/150/150/200/200/250/300/300/250/150/150/100/100
with the anavar @ 50mg ed for 6 weeks.

canni, we've talked about this before and i am curious about your takes on the t3 dosage...thanks bros!  

14 Apr 2006 15:09
canibalistic_js
I am running 3-400mcgs of t3 now but whatever works for you I honestly think you should run this cycle longer then 6 weeks but to each his own. how about a low dose of test maybe like 2-300mgs a week?  

14 Apr 2006 18:10
A.B
amerfootball, i would not be running any of those at this point in time, get your BF% down through diet and cardio bro... i know you have been dieting for about 2 months now, keep at it and it iwll come in time.  

14 Apr 2006 18:34
AMERFOOTBALL
im still a fat shit. i've reduced calories now to a crawl. eating less than 2k a day...  

14 Apr 2006 20:13
illsniggles
Yeahh i know, i dont want the sides of t3 because i dont really wanna do a cycle with it, ill prob just run clen and clean up my diet.

have you ever heard of anyone gettin a thyroid problem cause of t3?  

14 Apr 2006 20:41
brandozzz
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]I am running 3-400mcgs of t3 now but whatever works for you I honestly think you should run this cycle longer then 6 weeks but to each his own. how about a low dose of test maybe like 2-300mgs a week?[/QUOTE]
holy thyroid shut down 3-400 mcgs is that a day? :screwy:  

14 Apr 2006 21:07
Storm
Anything above 150mcg of T-3 is just plain stupid..Using the ramp meathos for T-3 for long period is the way to go I have explained this before start with 25mcg and every 2 days bump it up 12.5-25mcg until you get to 150mcg if you want to go that high then you ramp down in the saem fashion..

300mcg is a ridiculous amount to take..I have honestly not heard of anyone going much above 200mcg and these were seasoned BBers who compete on a National level and carry alot of mass..Migh as well take 5g of test a week..  

14 Apr 2006 23:00
brandozzz
no sht like i said i hope you didnt mean a day thats just insane  

14 Apr 2006 23:07
AMERFOOTBALL
[QUOTE=Storm]Anything above 150mcg of T-3 is just plain stupid..Using the ramp meathos for T-3 for long period is the way to go I have explained this before start with 25mcg and every 2 days bump it up 12.5-25mcg until you get to 150mcg if you want to go that high then you ramp down in the saem fashion..

300mcg is a ridiculous amount to take..I have honestly not heard of anyone going much above 200mcg and these were seasoned BBers who compete on a National level and carry alot of mass..Migh as well take 5g of test a week..[/QUOTE]


I see. so a better method would be...

25/50/75/100/125/150/150/150/150/125/100/75/50/25

would you still do the 2 on 2 off or run the t3 longer or?
what advatages/disadvantages are there between running t3 and t4?  

14 Apr 2006 23:23
illsniggles
t4 is less potent, less lean muscle loss.

[QUOTE=estray]T4 supposedly wont attack lean muscle whereas T3 will as it wont make the distinction between muscle and fat. If you run t3 you should prolly run test with it.[/QUOTE]  

14 Apr 2006 23:38
Storm
[QUOTE=AMERFOOTBALL]I see. so a better method would be...

25/50/75/100/125/150/150/150/150/125/100/75/50/25

would you still do the 2 on 2 off or run the t3 longer or?
what advatages/disadvantages are there between running t3 and t4?[/QUOTE]

No your not getting it every 2 days bump up the dose 12.5 -25mcg so that run above would be twice as long slow up ramp slow down ramp..  

15 Apr 2006 02:07
AMERFOOTBALL
Still contiplating this and i guess just looking for general knowledge...ive heard varying dosages on anavar. some say they've had results with just 15mg ed and other run 40-60 ed. what is normal?  

24 May 2006 20:03
canibalistic_js
Bro it depends on your body. After cycling a few times I'm actully leaning toward smaller doses to find out what you can get away with. If you plan on being on and off for a while it's best to find out what works for you instead of wasting a bunch of gear. Why use a 50 if 20 gives you the same results and I read recently that super dosing is bad and it's best to use smaller doses of mulitple AAS.  

24 May 2006 20:06

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