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mikeds
what the recomended dose of thiland dbol (pink tab oct) .some say 3 a day some say 6 a day.3 in the morning three in the evening.Or just three sprad out all day.stacking with cyp test 1000 mg spread out over seven days..Started at 500 mg a week then by third week i increased the dose to 1000mg per week.I have been taking dbolwith this and im only doing 3 a day 50% say 3 a day and the other 50% say 6 a day .How long can it be taken for 6 weeks max or 12 weeks max.It pisses me of when some people say they they no shit when they dont.so If your not experienced doing cycles then dont bother leaving a reply on this thread.Thank you.Also calorie intake .im 250 now body fat 18%.to gain more should my calorie intake be 4000 calories per day.have clean eating plan .  

15 Nov 2005 05:21
canibalistic_js
What's your question? You need to be more patient relax give it a some time. Longer esters such as enanthate and cypionate take longer to kick in n3-4 weeks.  

15 Nov 2005 05:36
mikeds
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]What's your question? You need to be more patient relax give it a some time. Longer esters such as enanthate and cypionate take longer to kick in n3-4 weeks.[/QUOTE]
I am patient just want the right answers have no patients when someone tells me one thing and other people say other things.What the recomended dose of d bol im noticing the test at work .  

15 Nov 2005 05:43
canibalistic_js
Ok. IMO you are taking WAY too much test for anyone. 1000mgs seriously unless you're semi pro you need to back off. Also recommended dose of d-bol, well everyone is going to tell you something different so, become better accustomed to it and why are you being an a$$ on here? Did people make fun of you when you where a kid?

A good dose of d-bol is is 25-50mgs a day for someone with some size. But I can't get over seeing someone come one here who knows it all is on here asking for advice shouldn't be such an a$$. I think it's funny to see all the advice because you get better advice and more rounded advice. The advice on here is free and take it for what it's worth. No strings attached, except with GP :ohcrap: He's a big guy.

What are your stats? Mikeds? Goals? Training regime and diet?

And, why did you start a cycle with out researching it first?  

15 Nov 2005 05:54
mikeds
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]Ok. IMO you are taking WAY too much test for anyone. 1000mgs seriously unless you're semi pro you need to back off. Also recommended dose of d-bol, well everyone is going to tell you something different so, become better accustomed to it and why are you being an a$$ on here? Did people make fun of you when you where a kid?

A good dose of d-bol is is 25-50mgs a day for someone with some size. But I can't get over seeing someone come one here who knows it all is on here asking for advice shouldn't be such an a$$. I think it's funny to see all the advice because you get better advice and more rounded advice. The advice on here is free and take it for what it's worth. No strings attached, except with GP :ohcrap: He's a big guy.

What are your stats? Mikeds? Goals? Training regime and diet?

And, why did you start a cycle with out researching it first?[/QUOTE]
not trying to be an ass just being straight foward i guess when you read things you take into acount that im putting you on the spot .i guess people made fun of you when you were a kid cause if you cant read something and take it to heart that im being an ass then dont read it .im just asking for those who dont know something then dont reply.And yes im doing and did my research thats why im asking whats the recomended dose.  

15 Nov 2005 08:57
canibalistic_js
I didn't think you were talking to me but I was offended because I'm usually a parent to people by nature so I have a tendency to stick up for others, sorry for being short.

a safe period of time for d-bol is 4-6 weeks. Test can be run yearound but for a cycle like this 10-12 weeks.

D-bol 50mgs ed weeks 1-4,5,or6,
Test cypionate- 500+ weekly (divided into two doses) weeks 1-10 or 12 or 15

Yes, if you want to get big you have to eat big but IMO while on AAS protein is the most important part of your diet. From what I have read you are metabolizing around 40%+ more protein than you would with out. IMO just because you are doing a bulking cycle doesn't you whould let yourself go, don't forget cardio, Iknow I hate doing it but it will be so hard to lose the weight if you get out of control after my last mass cycle I'm still busting my a$$ and carb cycling and cardio until I get under 10%.  

15 Nov 2005 09:42
canibalistic_js
:D :thumbs:  

15 Nov 2005 09:54
regino007
Mikkeds,you seem to get pissed about some feedback ppl give.What gives?
Yes,lots of ppl get flamed on when they first start.Its all a learning process.If you can't understand that information should be constructive then you need to re-evaluate your thinking.Nor everyone you talk to on here is against you.You should take alot of the info you read and chew on it for awhile and keep learning untill the answer you seek comes to light.
Dbol-wk1-6/25-50mg ED/spit it up if you can durning the day.or half AM then PM
test-wk1-12/500mg wk spliting up they way you can handle it.eg.2 shots aweek @250 ea shot.
1000mg of test is for more advanced ppl and a waste IMO.
have your anti-e's on hand as well along with your liver protectants.
Good luck.  

15 Nov 2005 17:05
mikeds
Thanks guys thats the response i like .By the way i screwed up,im only taking three shots a week at 250 each shot.total is 700 mg not 1000.thanks again for the solid advice.And sorry about my attitude.Can help it iv been a slave driver all my life.Thats why companies love me for a boss.Now that im retired im my own boss kicking my own ass to be the best that I can be.Im 256 now 6 feet tall and gaol is to get to around three hundred then lean down to 260 .want to try and do this over a four year span.SO i got the time and working on the patients  

15 Nov 2005 20:04
jcvaughn26
This board lacks some serious math skills. :D 250x3= 750

If this is your first cycle no need to take that much even you'll get the same results IMO at 500mg a week. 40mg of dbol ed split into 3 doses. Dbol has a half life of 5-6 hrs.  

15 Nov 2005 20:38
mikeds
[QUOTE=jcvaughn26]This board lacks some serious math skills. :D 250x3= 750

If this is your first cycle no need to take that much even you'll get the same results IMO at 500mg a week. 40mg of dbol ed split into 3 doses. Dbol has a half life of 5-6 hrs.[/QUOTE]this is my third cycle over 4 year period.my last shot is on friday and i only take 200 ml34 shot.I gave myself a year and a half break due to carple tunnel sugery and wanted to make sure the nerves grow properly withou any stress to the wrist.( from the job not the gym)  

15 Nov 2005 23:28
AMERFOOTBALL
*not a flame just a ?* how can your nerves grow? it is my understanding that once a nerve dies, thats it. same thing after injury. took this from a medical journal

"We have been trying to overcome some of the barriers to successful nerve cell transplantation and regeneration," Saltzman explains. "After the fetal stage of life, we cannot -- normally -- produce new cells in the central nervous system, including the brain, to replace nerve cells that are lost to injury, disease or aging processes."

The article talks about how scientists are using NGF (nerve growth factor ) to try to regenerate nerves. Interesting stuff.  

16 Nov 2005 00:08
AMERFOOTBALL
BTW, acticle can be viewed at http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2001-10/cuns-cng101101.php  

16 Nov 2005 00:21
mikeds
[QUOTE=AMERFOOTBALL]*not a flame just a ?* how can your nerves grow? it is my understanding that once a nerve dies, thats it. same thing after injury. took this from a medical journal

"We have been trying to overcome some of the barriers to successful nerve cell transplantation and regeneration," Saltzman explains. "After the fetal stage of life, we cannot -- normally -- produce new cells in the central nervous system, including the brain, to replace nerve cells that are lost to injury, disease or aging processes."

The article talks about how scientists are using NGF (nerve growth factor ) to try to regenerate nerves. Interesting stuff.[/QUOTE]
thanks Dr amerfootball .i may not be a Dr. Im only stating what took place. With my wrist and i only wanted to say that i did not want to be an idiot and go right back to the gym to work outI had to take off six months to let it heel properly.Glad to see you remember things in college.  

16 Nov 2005 00:25
canibalistic_js
Mr. Football appears to be a smart a$$..lol  

16 Nov 2005 00:38
canibalistic_js
[QUOTE=AMERFOOTBALL]*not a flame just a ?* how can your nerves grow? it is my understanding that once a nerve dies, thats it. same thing after injury. took this from a medical journal

"We have been trying to overcome some of the barriers to successful nerve cell transplantation and regeneration," Saltzman explains. "After the fetal stage of life, we cannot -- normally -- produce new cells in the central nervous system, including the brain, to replace nerve cells that are lost to injury, disease or aging processes."

The article talks about how scientists are using NGF (nerve growth factor ) to try to regenerate nerves. Interesting stuff.[/QUOTE]

Isn't that the entire the idea behind stemcell research? I know it's cloning but stem cell research can help us discover new possiblities?  

16 Nov 2005 00:44
AMERFOOTBALL
ABSOLUTELY!

and I wasn't trying to sound like a prick. I was just curious. I figured mikeds wanted to take some time off to heal properly. BTW thats great that you weren't an idiot about going right back to the gym and getting injured again and losing more time. Mikeds, are you on now? seems like you are a bit test-y (pun intended) on this and other posts...on another note, and not to thread jack, seems like the entire board has had more people flaming each other lately, as a group WE need to get along! Smile  

16 Nov 2005 00:51
AMERFOOTBALL
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]Mr. Football appears to be a smart a$$..lol[/QUOTE]

edited per request  

16 Nov 2005 00:52
canibalistic_js
[QUOTE=AMERFOOTBALL]there goes the dumb jock theory...[/QUOTE]
Mr. Football is the man..lol  

16 Nov 2005 01:04
AMERFOOTBALL
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]Isn't that the entire the idea behind stemcell research? I know it's cloning but stem cell research can help us discover new possiblities?[/QUOTE]

stemcells do take it a bit farther though. with stemcells they attempting to alter you genetic path. For example, if you had a birth defect (ie born without a hand) they would try to help you grow a new one. or maybe a better example on this board, make it so you could have genetics like Mr. Coleman if thats what you wanted.

The NGF is cool to me because it has potential to be used for injury. For example, my sister was involved in a motorcycle accident, she had brain injury (she's fine today BTW) had she had permenant brain damage, the NGF may have been able to allow her to regenerate the dead brain cells. Also thier may be hope for all those who did too many drugs in college and can no longer function to thier full potential. Chris reeves may have been able to walk again with the help of NGF or stem cells. (there's no bringing ya back from the dead though) Smile  

16 Nov 2005 01:06
mikeds
[QUOTE=AMERFOOTBALL]stemcells do take it a bit farther though. with stemcells they attempting to alter you genetic path. For example, if you had a birth defect (ie born without a hand) they would try to help you grow a new one. or maybe a better example on this board, make it so you could have genetics like Mr. Coleman if thats what you wanted.

The NGF is cool to me because it has potential to be used for injury. For example, my sister was involved in a motorcycle accident, she had brain injury (she's fine today BTW) had she had permenant brain damage, the NGF may have been able to allow her to regenerate the dead brain cells. Also thier may be hope for all those who did too many drugs in college and can no longer function to thier full potential. Chris reeves may have been able to walk again with the help of NGF or stem cells. (there's no bringing ya back from the dead though) Smile[/QUOTE]they are aslo using stemcell reasearch to fight retna eye membrane, degenerative deseases.Very interesting.Yes i agree we should not knock others. we have all been there and done that. Everybody has a learning phase on aas.To bad they could not legalize it so we have trusted practitioners adminstering these products monitering all activities and side effects.I think we should all get along and no i not testi pun its the way i normally am Iv always had a slight bit of aggression was born with that problem.  

16 Nov 2005 04:01
canibalistic_js
[QUOTE=mikeds]they are aslo using stemcell reasearch to fight retna eye membrane, degenerative deseases.Very interesting.Yes i agree we should not knock others. we have all been there and done that. Everybody has a learning phase on aas.To bad they could not legalize it so we have trusted practitioners adminstering these products monitering all activities and side effects.I think we should all get along and no i not testi pun its the way i normally am Iv always had a slight bit of aggression was born with that problem.[/QUOTE]

Amen, you said it.  

16 Nov 2005 04:19
TomSizeMore
[QUOTE=mikeds]they are aslo using stemcell reasearch to fight retna eye membrane, degenerative deseases.Very interesting.Yes i agree we should not knock others. we have all been there and done that. Everybody has a learning phase on aas.To bad they could not legalize it so we have trusted practitioners adminstering these products monitering all activities and side effects.I think we should all get along and no i not testi pun its the way i normally am Iv always had a slight bit of aggression was born with that problem.[/QUOTE]


Bro, at least once in your life, you should put aside about 3 months where u can isolate yourself from others and run Tren Ace, Test Prop, and Halotestin with Check Drops!!!! You would be the biggest A-hole the world had seen, but the weights would FEAR you.lol  

16 Nov 2005 07:36
mikeds
[QUOTE=TomSizeMore]Bro, at least once in your life, you should put aside about 3 months where u can isolate yourself from others and run Tren Ace, Test Prop, and Halotestin with Check Drops!!!! You would be the biggest A-hole the world had seen, but the weights would FEAR you.lol[/QUOTE]
where are you trying to getwith this one. Seems to me you think im a prick.ha ha thanks for the advice though i read on that stack  

16 Nov 2005 19:42
TomSizeMore
[QUOTE=mikeds]where are you trying to getwith this one. Seems to me you think im a prick.ha ha thanks for the advice though i read on that stack[/QUOTE]


It's a known fact that if your aggressive off juice then your even more so when on. Especially with the Cheque Drops. Those things are just plain sick. But, your workouts would be insane.  

17 Nov 2005 01:12
canibalistic_js
Yeah I heard that's what Mike Tyson was on when he bit that dudes ear.  

17 Nov 2005 01:37
AMERFOOTBALL
thats awesome. But like tom said, it would be a good idea to be able to stay away from people. Tyson seems to be pretty damn agressive without juice, let alone with.  

17 Nov 2005 02:27
mikeds
[QUOTE=AMERFOOTBALL]thats awesome. But like tom said, it would be a good idea to be able to stay away from people. Tyson seems to be pretty damn agressive without juice, let alone with.[/QUOTE]yeyeh it sucks when you have that problem becase everyone thinks im an ass till they get to know me.Even my kickboxclass kicked me out after the fouth year they could not keep me in turnaments cause i always fought like a raging pit bull
It sucks and yeh when im on i have to remind myself hey bro think about today not tomorrow and take it as it comes.  

17 Nov 2005 02:50
jcvaughn26
A cycle with cheque drops and halo would be so rough on the liver. But you would be moving some serious weight. LOL  

17 Nov 2005 02:56

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