sex/masturbation having effects on building muscle...

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CosmoK
Ok for example on a day I worked out on, if I rub one out, the next day it feels like my muscles havent healed as well as if I dont rub one out. And also, at any given day during the week, if I rub one out, my body immediately feels depleted and my muscles feel smaller.... haha

so my question is this: Say someone went a month without any sex/masturbation, and another person identical to them did it 3-4 times a week, would that have any effect on how much muscle a person can build?  

06 Nov 2007 00:07

canibalistic_js
I learned in a college Human sexuality class that it takes up to 72 ours for men to reproduce testosterone after a man ejaculates?  

06 Nov 2007 00:19
CosmoK
I would definately believe that. I feel bigger and stronger in a week where I dont do anything sexual or maybe once a week as compared to those streaks where i do it like 4-5 days a week.

so does this mean having sex and wacking off are bad for building muscle? i would have to believe it is  

06 Nov 2007 01:42
cwshorns
really??? is this a legitimate thread? coming guys, i believe you are trying to over analyze this...  

06 Nov 2007 02:15
John H
i think i saw the opposite somewhere else, that when you jack it you actually get a test boost... ill see if i can find it  

06 Nov 2007 05:28
bluntandkronic
i have heard it takes up to a week to fully restore your stores  

06 Nov 2007 08:40
estray
There is a marked drop in Testosterone right after an ejaculation. Dont know exactly how long it takes to get back. There have been numerous studies on this.  

06 Nov 2007 16:40
S.W.A.T.
lol and still its unknown.  

06 Nov 2007 17:58
CosmoK
over analyzing it? i dont think so. when it comes to building muscle and something that affects your testosterone, I think it can be important. and yes I am dead serious about this thread  

07 Nov 2007 00:50
cwshorns
lighten up francis...  

07 Nov 2007 02:04
estray
[QUOTE=cwshorns;82057]lighten up francis...[/QUOTE]

lol.:laughing:  

07 Nov 2007 04:11
MegaA
There was some information on this once which I had read in a bodybuilding mag that testosterone decreased after masterbation and after looking for the article for 30 minutes I have finally found it for you. The magazine is Muaclemag and it was in the Australian 1993 issue. It says the following


Recently Musclemad Internation ran a piece stating that if your testosterone is up, you'll grow muscles faster and more easily.

Want to know one way to raise your testosterone? Cut down on sex.

Doesn't sound like much fun. One of Indias medical Dr's ... now resides in New Mexico says that both men and women lose vital protein and other nutrients in their orgasmic fluid. When they have too many orgasms they become depleted... signs that you are oversexing - muscle weakness, low backache, intense anxiety and fear, joint pain, constipation, insomnia, impotence, enlarged and paonful prostate....


END OF ARTICLE

Overanalysing? I think not.

I think people rightly so should consider this topic if they want good results and should think about this more often then some of the other silly things they think about - eg - oh should i eat 40 greams of protein through fish or should i do it through chicken.  

07 Nov 2007 14:14
cosmic-dust
I really dont think sex or masturbation will have much effect on test levels enough to make a difference to your physique! Arguably maybe excessive ejaculation.. which hasnt been quantified as above.

Ejaculation will not decrease serum testosterone. Semen does NOT contain testosterone.

It takes about 72 hours to produce a new supply of mature sperm to be released.

Erection and ejaculation are controlled by the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system.

I def think people overanalyse on this.  

07 Nov 2007 16:14
estray
[QUOTE=cosmic-dust;82064]I
Semen does NOT contain testosterone.

.[/QUOTE]



Lol, no kidding?



Its easy for people, especially those who take gear, to dismiss this as overanlyzing. But to a natural bodybuilder learning to manipulate all the important hormones...insulin, leptin, cortisol, and Testosterone, is definetly to their advantage.  

07 Nov 2007 19:36
cosmic-dust
[QUOTE=estray;82067]Lol, no kidding?[/QUOTE]

You wouldnt believe how many times that gets asked around, so I just wanted to make it clear lol.  

08 Nov 2007 02:10
12seckelso
i have to agree....if ur havin trouble sleepin i recommend either. it drains the hell outa me!! thats y i try go to the gym in the am n leave the sex to the pm  

08 Nov 2007 05:37
A.B
cough up no sex for prostate... not for bodybuilding. if some of you actually consider this then you probably have the wrong things in line and should be more strict with diet, training and rest... not sex  

08 Nov 2007 06:42
MegaA
Don't you feel weaker and with less energy when you have had a few spanks of the monkey? I know I do - and energy levels drop ddramatically leading me to believe that Test levels would drop as well - Good testosterone levels = good energy levels.  

08 Nov 2007 15:23
lil bit
[QUOTE=A.B;82081]cough up no sex for prostate... not for bodybuilding. if some of you actually consider this then you probably have the wrong things in line and should be more strict with diet, training and rest... not sex[/QUOTE]


AB, I knew you'd be the one with the right line of thinking!!! :D  

08 Nov 2007 16:56
estray
[QUOTE=MegaA;82086]Don't you feel weaker and with less energy when you have had a few spanks of the monkey? I know I do - and energy levels drop ddramatically leading me to believe that Test levels would drop as well - Good testosterone levels = good energy levels.[/QUOTE]

Your exactly right. Test levels do drop right after ejaculation. This has been shown in studies. but its not because the testosterone gets shot out in the semen like many people mistakenly think. Its because of increased Prolactin production. The drop is temporary mind you goes back up in a matter of a few hours but it will effect a workout. Anyone ever hit the gym right after sex? i know i have and my wokouts are terrible. strength and endurance are much lower. theres your real life example.

Conversely, test levels rise rapidly and hit a big spike during sexual arousal. Hell, its even been shown in studies that picking up and handling a gun causes male test levels to rise very significantly. Testosterone can be manipulated to some degree. Like i said before, this would be advantageous to a natural bodybuilder but i choose to manipulate my hormones with a bottle of test prop and a needle. lol




On a side note, test levels in women acutally rise during sexual arousal and continue to rise even after sex. shows how different men and women are.  

08 Nov 2007 18:49
Morgan
[QUOTE=estray;82093] but i choose to manipulate my hormones with a bottle of test prop and a needle. lol[/QUOTE]

:laughing::thumbs:  

08 Nov 2007 19:22
lil bit
[QUOTE=estray;82093]On a side note, test levels in women acutally rise during sexual arousal and continue to rise even after sex. shows how different men and women are.[/QUOTE]


So, for a female looking to build muscle, it would be to her advantage to make time before the gym for either masturbation or sex, if that is the case??  

08 Nov 2007 20:56
Morgan
[QUOTE=lil bit;82095]So, for a female looking to build muscle, it would be to her advantage to make time before the gym for either masturbation or sex, if that is the case??[/QUOTE]

it seems to me that would be a good idea:D and i am gonna go hold my gun for a little before i lift:laughing:  

08 Nov 2007 21:26
canibalistic_js
You guys seriously need to quit beating yourselves off its a waste of test!!!!! Get it? :D  

08 Nov 2007 21:48
estray
lol



lilbit, I wouldnt go to completion. Before a workout just play around with yourself a little, enough to get good and aroused, then call me......errrr i mean go to the gym.:D


Then when youre done working out, your or someone else can finish the job. report back with details/results/pics/vids.  

08 Nov 2007 21:56
canibalistic_js
Sounds like someone is sexually frustrated  

08 Nov 2007 22:16
cosmic-dust
[QUOTE=MegaA;82086]Don't you feel weaker and with less energy when you have had a few spanks of the monkey? I know I do - and energy levels drop ddramatically leading me to believe that Test levels would drop as well - Good testosterone levels = good energy levels.[/QUOTE]

Youll feel that way because your sympathetic nervous system is not firing and I think endorphins are released hence why people feel much better after sex.

By all means if it helps you with training to save your load then do it. My old football coach used to tell us to sleep with boxing gloves on the night before games. I always feel more focused and determined when I have some juice in the tank.  

09 Nov 2007 10:25
CosmoK
lol quick story

i am 20 now, but back in high school I was a pitcher for my baseball team... if I didnt beat off the morning of a game day I threw about 85 mph, but for some reason I decided to beat off before a lot of my games and I could only throw about 80 mph..... and then for some other odd reason I would work out and beat off before games which dropped it down to about 77 mph..  

10 Nov 2007 20:38
CosmoK
but seriously, I know I know I know ur not supposed to judge anything on "the pump" or how sore you are the couple days after a work out...... but if I work out and the next day I am nice and big and pumped and sore, then if I beat off or something I definately lose a lot of that pump/soreness and I feel smaller... so idk maybe its just personal opinion/experience... but for me I would definately say beating off has a negative effect on building muscle  

10 Nov 2007 20:42
powerman34
i think if ur havin to masterbate u must not look to good so i would focus more on working out so u can look good and dont have to masterbate as much.  

09 Jan 2008 08:29
S.W.A.T.
rofl good one powerman34
ahahah.
i guess that is why he is here Smile  

09 Jan 2008 08:47
tacoma_D
I actually read some article in MuscleMag a few months back about how having sex or masturbating often is actually good for mass gains. It said something about having sex often keeps the test and other hormones circulating throughout the bloodstream better.  

09 Jan 2008 09:28
Dex2
well i dont care because if i want to have sex im going to have sex  

09 Jan 2008 22:00
Morgan
[QUOTE=Dex2;84345]well i dont care because if i want to have sex im going to have sex[/QUOTE]

goddamn right:thumbs::laughing:  

09 Jan 2008 23:33
Big A
[QUOTE=Dex2;84345]well i dont care because if i want to have sex im going to have sex[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Morgan;84363]goddamn right:thumbs::laughing:[/QUOTE]

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs: hell yes  

10 Jan 2008 00:01
S.W.A.T.
[QUOTE=tacoma_D;84326]I actually read some article in MuscleMag a few months back about how having sex or masturbating often is actually good for mass gains. It said something about having sex often keeps the test and other hormones circulating throughout the bloodstream better.[/QUOTE]

r you sure? dam hope that is right.  

10 Jan 2008 09:14
tacoma_D
haha, yeah i'm sure. I've read it in a couple places besides that. You could pry even look it up on google if you'd wanna see it for yourself.  

10 Jan 2008 09:48
tacoma_D
I think that not having sex increases aggresiveness, but IMO i don't think it increases the hormone itself. It just increases the drive for it and the aggresiveness comes with it. That may be why some ppl are saying that they can push more weight when they refrain from sex for a period of time.  

10 Jan 2008 09:55
Stricken
Anyone willing to try have lots of sex before workouts or jackin it like 3 times for a few weeks? lmao  

11 Jan 2008 01:24
MegaA
I tend to believe that ejeculating will lead to less test as I've nnotcied after ejaculation I feel tired amd lazy and lack energy.  

13 Jan 2008 13:58
tacoma_D
Same here. But I don't think it's the lack of test, I think it's just the sex drive is gone after you get off and that makes you tired and stuff. Who knows though.. I may be wrong. Just my :2cents:
I'm still a teenager and I have to masturbate like crazy, hahaha. And I've noticed only really great results.  

13 Jan 2008 20:55
elmariachi
Sex doesn't 'directly' affect muscle growth, but you may be a little less 'motivated' after sex. Since sex generally relaxes people, you may not feel like going to the gym right afterwards. But if you wait a few hours, or the next day...you'll be fine. The orgasm (release of semen) shouldn't have any effect on muscle growth. You're still gonna have the testosterone needed to build muscle.

you need to relax to give your muscles time to grow well my friend sex relaxes you body 100% because sex is hot and steamy you will get more oxygen to all your muscles  

14 Jan 2008 01:23
tacoma_D
well said. Smile  

14 Jan 2008 01:28
sonny0986
given that boost in testosterone is what makes people horny and having the odd pull will make u less horny, so im guessing theres an immediate reduction in testosterone stores? and given that anabolic steroids are primarily testosterone and u see the size difference in them, id say it's right, sex and pulling does reduce ur ability to bulk up? so thats it for me less tossing and pore lifting lol  

19 Jan 2008 11:18
sonny0986
i guess so, what is the answer?  

20 Jan 2008 07:01
MegaA
I guess the answer is not to pull - unless under circumstances where you cannot hold on any longer.

Which part of Melbourne you from ?? Where do you work out ?  

20 Jan 2008 14:56
sonny0986
i think i've spoken to u on mirc buddy, remember [DSTRYD] ? might catch u around there soon lol, im from west and i work out at home.  

21 Jan 2008 02:53
Hamed
hi all

this topic is a big concern for me because i am looking for an answer to the the same question u all wonder what the answer is which is does masturbation or sex affect muscle building ... well like all of u i dont really know the answer but what i do know is this ...

I tend to workout from Saturday - Wednesday and rest on thursday & friday, and on friday i Measure my Biceps + Chest + waist, and i see no Decrease in any muscle size !! in fact i gain 2 or 3 out of 16 an Inch on my arms and 6 or 7 out of 16 an inch on my chest and back (just to be clear 1 inch = 16) ... and i do masturbate 1-2 or max of 3 times a week but still i sense growth in all muscle groups if i am working out properly and eating my meals properly (i am doing MuscleNow program) and yes after ejaculation i do feel tired and smaller and UNBULKED and i do regret on doing what i did but still at the end of the week there is growth ...

once i asked the trainer at the gym i go to that wheather sex/masturbation has an effect on muscle building and he said it might effect energy and power levels so it is better to not do it when you have a workout session the other day but he said if you have no workout the other day its ok to do it but to recycle whatever has been lost in ur body while having sex/masturbating he said its better to eat seafood and have some simple sugars and the musclenow program i am on is all about simple sugars pre and post workouts ..

so that is what i know .. i guess doing it and working out and eating meals in proper form will give you muscle growth (maybe less growth but still growth) but after a DOING IT session lol u can forget about the temporary pump at night times, every other night when i feel PUMPED and BULKED maybe due to high testostrene my sex drive is CRAZY !! i cant hold my self sometimes i force my self to not to do it but sometimes when the gun gets loaded its hard to not waist the ammo =P

thnx  

19 Jun 2008 20:57
4Rings
I could still workout like normal at the gym or jog after sex.
I think it is a myth that people say after sex would affect sports performance.  

20 Jun 2008 03:16
Thundercat
I didnt bash one out for 4 days...

result... the ladies looked and smiled at mea lot more

call it placebo - cnfdence watever

bottom line - i felt better

so if u feel better ullliftbetter ull look better

results r wat counts -

stop wanking (well...as often as u do)

i know - a lot easier said than done lol

but the truth is if u stop bashing them out ull bebigger and stronger

peace
ps. dont trust me - well try it for2 weeks and see - then have either great sex or a messy shower  

20 Jun 2008 23:24
Mon1018
Very nice entry.
That site is amazing for reviews.
Wonderful - I've been looking for it for a long time:clap:  

22 Jun 2008 07:45
CosmoK
glad to see my thread was so popular, time to resurrect it... anyways I saw a sports science show on FSN and they tested an athletes endurance, strength, and testosterone levels before and a couple hours after sex and EVERYTHING increased....

still, I could be feeling all nice and pumped and in a good mood as far as muscle goes, then I'll sleep with my girlfriend and immediately after that I just feel depleted (not just energy wise, but my muscles just feel flat) so, my conclusion is that sex when done sparingly (1-2 times per week) probably does not effect muscle growth, but it does effect mental things (like lack of pump & flat feeling), which can lead to less motivation, which can lead to worse workouts and missed meals, which leads to less muscle .... so if you are mentally tough to not let that flat feeling bother you, I praise you.  

11 Dec 2008 12:57
lil bit
You feel depleted because you've used just about every muscle in your body for an extended (hopefully) period of time. If you're not feeling completely used up, you either had a quickie or you aren't doing it right.

That being said, ummmm....1-2 times per week? If you have kids, are in a long distance relationship, or are single I can understand, but if you're dating or married, to withold because you want a better workout is just cruel!!! Sad

I'm all for understanding the effects of common actions on the body, but there are just some sacrifices a person should not be willing to make....  

11 Dec 2008 18:12
bignready
i could not go only once or twice a week.i would die.my wife and do 6 days a week.sometimes more than once a day.i do let her have one day off for rest.lol
but im not normal,i know.i am a sex addict.i have an addictive personality.but hey,its better than the coke i used to do a long time ago.now im only addicted to training,sex and well..maybe juice  

11 Dec 2008 19:31
LukeVTS
how long has this thread been going on for! only something sexual related could last this long  

11 Dec 2008 20:24
CosmoK
haha yea, almost 4000 views.... no im 21, in college, dont see my girlfriend everyday  

12 Dec 2008 05:10
Storm
jerkyboys  

12 Dec 2008 22:17
MegaA
This one was a succesfull thread - another sucessfull thread was What mottivates you - which had different peoples sttories baout what motivates them to do weights and also had articles about motivation.  

13 Dec 2008 12:44
Superman23
Okay here is a good Lifting observation. depends on day. You talk about energy levels before lifting and wether blowing the load before hand has an effect. well considerr this...Before I dont think is much of a difference but If I lift first I personal dont have a sexual drive after at all. like the jerk is replaced by lifting. But i do notice on some days I focus a lot better If I blow the load before the gym it seems to help a lot stay focus but I do get a little tired if I sit down so i guess keeping active after blowing the load hit the gy and sleep. again my opinion. personal preference. any scientific evidence out there?  

09 Mar 2009 06:50
jimmyg
well the founding member of the fffa says it makes it higher but not enough to matter just fyi  

09 Mar 2009 07:05

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