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mattyboynig
:confused: hey guys please dont ban me or critisize me i am 17 and looking to do a test cycle with proper nolva pct and anything i should know about before ive done loads of research and the only thing im scared of is stunted growth? and has anyone here done a cycle at this age and had issues when older? thanks im 165lbs pump alot...  

09 Feb 2007 03:19

JDIESEL
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]:confused: hey guys please dont ban me or critisize me i am 17 and looking to do a test cycle with proper nolva pct and anything i should know about before ive done loads of research and the only thing im scared of is stunted growth? and has anyone here done a cycle at this age and had issues when older? thanks im 165lbs pump alot...[/QUOTE]



uh oh i can see this thread goin downhill really fast.......bro why would u wanna start juicing at 17?? ur 165lbs thats nothing....if you learned how to eat properly and train properly u could make huge gains. stunted growth isnt the only thing u should be worried about.....u have this thing called an endocrine system that is not gonna take a liking to u juicing. also since you have done "loads" of research lay out how u plan to run your cycle and pct. what kind of test, for how long, how much, when r u gonna start your pct, what r u gonna do for it, how much of it.......all of those question u should be able to answer.....by no means am i saying its ok to do it i just wanna see how much research you actually did  

09 Feb 2007 03:33
mattyboynig
ok im going to get my stuff writen out then post it here and how do u mean train properly would u be able to give me some advice?  

09 Feb 2007 08:03
dg806
You have no business using steroids.....shame on you.  

09 Feb 2007 08:15
estray
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]:confused: hey guys please dont ban me or critisize me i am 17 and looking to do a test cycle with proper nolva pct and anything i should know about before ive done loads of research and the only thing im scared of is stunted growth? and has anyone here done a cycle at this age and had issues when older? thanks im 165lbs pump alot...[/QUOTE]


You should be scared. its very likely consequence at your age. Just hang on for at least a couple more years bro.  

09 Feb 2007 10:39
mattyboynig
ok thanks for ur suport but what is the worst that can happen? growing wize...?  

09 Feb 2007 11:55
mattyboynig
like id only be using 1 cycle?  

09 Feb 2007 11:56
bignready
you can screw up your body's natural test production and feel like girl for the rest of your life.screw up your growth plates and never grow past where you are now.bro there is alot that can and probably will go wrong from juicing at too early an age.do a search on here.there was good testimony from someone who did what you are thinking of doing and he totally regrests it.i just dont have time to find it.maybe one of the mods or bro's here will find it.  

09 Feb 2007 15:11
JDIESEL
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]like id only be using 1 cycle?[/QUOTE]



first off anyone who says that is lying....after one cycle youll do another and another....but ne ways but shutting down your natural test production at such an early age you are risking messing with your hormones permanetley...meaning impotence (limp dick) or infertility (meaning no having kids) those to things always scared the hell outta me when i was younger. also i have a friend who had 2 heart attacks by age 22...he started using like his junior yr of high school....i dont know for sure that juicing led to those heart attacks but i bet ya they did.  

09 Feb 2007 17:20
mattyboynig
lol thanks im going to post a cycle but you guys have helped in changing my mind thanks but like i said id only care about growing but can by one cycle 100% shut down the growth plates?  

09 Feb 2007 19:13
estray
Yes, thats all it takes.  

09 Feb 2007 19:43
JDIESEL
bump^^^  

09 Feb 2007 20:40
bignready
yes it can.will it be worth it?  

09 Feb 2007 23:35
mattyboynig
who knows id think so at this age its worth it... here my cycle

week 1-8 500 mg test-e wk 9-12 100 mg test e week 13-14 50 mg test-e/wk
and 30 mg nolva dex per day....week 15 nolva 30 mg a day

thanks  

10 Feb 2007 02:07
president_fad
y taper?  

10 Feb 2007 03:25
mattyboynig
is it problem wat should i change?  

10 Feb 2007 04:14
lEx1701
I can't believe you just said that, you only care about it fcking up your growth? Dude!! I know they already said this but do you not understand what a limp dick is?? Do you not wanna have kids when your older or even have sex at all. That right there should have scared you enough. The worst part is is that these are the less severe things that can happen to you, you can do alot more internal damage to other organs. I've been lifting for a few years on and off but have only been a member here for a month now and i was going to juice too and i'm 21. I really researced everything, not like most people who said they did and after the first post there asking a million questions and don't know what pct is or pre loading supps prior to doing a cycle, etc. Your still asking how you should train when that should be the absolute first thing to get together besides diet and getting enough rest. Point is i searched this site and got great info on all aspects of bb including juice and was able to make the decision to hold off until i'm atleast 24 or maybe never on my own instead of posting something like this and making an idiot out of myself. With all honesty we're just trying to help u and don't think for a second we just do this for fun because it's not when you have to see stuff like this on this board 20x a week. They all get the same replies.  

10 Feb 2007 05:42
mattyboynig
ok the thing is i heer everything u all said and no i dont care about kids or sex..lol sorry but i no im being ignorant guy but i know how to train prop and eat good too i just would like to heer somebody talk about growth? and what can happen but yah thanks  

10 Feb 2007 06:56
estray
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]ok the thing is i heer everything u all said and no i dont care about kids or sex..lol sorry but i no im being ignorant guy but i know how to train prop and eat good too i just would like to heer somebody talk about growth? and what can happen but yah thanks[/QUOTE]

At your age you dont have the maturity or foresight to look ahead 10 years down the road. Saying you wont care just solidifies that because chances are you will.  

10 Feb 2007 08:58
JDIESEL
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]who knows id think so at this age its worth it... here my cycle

week 1-8 500 mg test-e wk 9-12 100 mg test e week 13-14 50 mg test-e/wk
and 30 mg nolva dex per day....week 15 nolva 30 mg a day

thanks[/QUOTE]


first off you havent done too much research cuz tapering is stupid....the test take 4-5 weeks to kick in by only running it for 8 weeks like that your not gonna get the full effect....and just nolva for your PCT and at 30 mg??? cmon bro u need to rethink what your about to do  

10 Feb 2007 16:47
will power
hey bro think about this, if this is something you want to do (I am talking about bodybuilding) Then doing it now will hurt you in the long run you first need to max out on your natural growth, when i was your age i wanted to jump on the gear. I was 145 5'9" skinny guy. by the time i was 21 i was 210 6'. All you need to do is eat. Now i am 24 been on a year and at my biggest which was 3-4 months ago i was 250 6' OX, dont cheat yourself out of a great body by makeing a mistake while you are young.  

10 Feb 2007 18:54
Subject117
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]ok the thing is i heer everything u all said and no i dont care about kids or sex..lol sorry but i no im being ignorant guy but i know how to train prop and eat good too i just would like to heer somebody talk about growth? and what can happen but yah thanks[/QUOTE]

Im sorry to attack you like this but you sound totally insane. First of all you are a kid who only is thinking at a highschool level ex. you want to fit in or want people to see how big you are and think that you are cool. To say that you dont care about kids or sex in your future is crazy and the kind of thing that I would expect to hear from a kid. Also that cycle that you posted is totally whacked :screwy: for 1 thing and pct sounded about as stupid as your cycle.

Look man do yourself a favor and eat & lift & rest. Take some creatine its good stuff and will help you.

You sound like a kid that is going to disregard what everyone is tell you anyway. So if you are going to do it anyway atleast do some research and do it correctly. Not what some guy in your high school gym told you.:banghead:  

10 Feb 2007 20:37
JDIESEL
[QUOTE=Subject117]Im sorry to attack you like this but you sound totally insane. First of all you are a kid who only is thinking at a highschool level ex. you want to fit in or want people to see how big you are and think that you are cool. To say that you dont care about kids or sex in your future is crazy and the kind of thing that I would expect to hear from a kid. Also that cycle that you posted is totally whacked :screwy: for 1 thing and pct sounded about as stupid as your cycle.

Look man do yourself a favor and eat & lift & rest. Take some creatine its good stuff and will help you.

You sound like a kid that is going to disregard what everyone is tell you anyway. So if you are going to do it anyway atleast do some research and do it correctly. Not what some guy in your high school gym told you.:banghead:[/QUOTE]



bump^^ trust me bro youll care about the sex sooner or later  

11 Feb 2007 09:10
mattyboynig
ok thanks boys i think ill wait lol  

12 Feb 2007 02:32
canibalistic_js
nuff said. What your diet like?  

12 Feb 2007 03:20
mattyboynig
i eat enought ( and smart) got gainers and creatine and run daily and play hockey every second day but still cant bulk up...?  

12 Feb 2007 04:20
canibalistic_js
I asked for your diet kid not an "I'm ok here" if it is post it.  

12 Feb 2007 04:38
JDIESEL
cani he drink 3 weight gainers a day with some chicken his diet is good lol....no bro most people think they are eating right but have no clue what there diet is supposed to look like  

12 Feb 2007 16:07
estray
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]i eat enought ( and smart) got gainers and creatine and run daily and play hockey every second day but still cant bulk up...?[/QUOTE]


If youre doing that much cardio activity, i doubt youre eating enough to gain. Either quit running or in increase your caloric intake 500 calories per day.  

12 Feb 2007 19:43
mattyboynig
yah i know but thats why id think of test-e because i cant stop training i need size strenth and speed...and ive stoped growing hieght wize says the doctor...  

13 Feb 2007 01:14
canibalistic_js
Speed and strength why don't you do some cardio and follow it by a front/back training/ front- chest, bi's, abs, quads, back- back, lower back, hams, calves, do like 1 light set and 1 heavy set. When you are no longer sweating slowly add a set onto each exercise. Don't kill yourself only do about a few exercises per body part like 1-3 to start out then add more on as you go. and don't do steroids!!!!  

13 Feb 2007 01:43
will power
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]yah i know but thats why id think of test-e because i cant stop training i need size strenth and speed...and ive stoped growing hieght wize says the doctor...[/QUOTE]
DUDE your 17 you may not grow in hight but there are more things that will grow. dont be a dumb ass. good things come for those who wait.  

13 Feb 2007 01:48
ccubanliinkpapii
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]:confused: hey guys please dont ban me or critisize me i am 17 and looking to do a test cycle with proper nolva pct and anything i should know about before ive done loads of research and the only thing im scared of is stunted growth? and has anyone here done a cycle at this age and had issues when older? thanks im 165lbs pump alot...[/QUOTE]
im young too im 21 and i wanted to juice up! and they told me i wasnt even old enough ...im talking about the guy in my hood that sells them! so i can imagine you @ that age no1 proally sell it to u...atleast no1 responsable!...also ..they say when u shoot up ur face deforms a lil bit...u 17 u got a baby face proally.. y u want that for plus ur acne @ that age is gonna b wooooooorst!.... dont do it cuz u aint gonna get laid no more lol!...??  

13 Feb 2007 03:21
mattyboynig
subject and canni can suck my fat dean...  

13 Feb 2007 05:16
canibalistic_js
Your really an idiot kid. I'm really trying to do you a favor and help you but you = don't get "it"  

13 Feb 2007 05:24
Subject117
well we better get a shot at you now cause after you are done screwing up your insides you wont have anything left to suck. The laddies are gonna call you vienna sasuage boy!! have fun Smile  

13 Feb 2007 05:33
JDIESEL
oh geez this thread is gonna get outta control......bro do whatever you think is right nothing we say is gonna change your mind....youll just have to learn the hard way  

13 Feb 2007 07:19
canibalistic_js
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]subject and canni can suck my fat dean...[/QUOTE]

You gay little pecker checker.  

13 Feb 2007 09:15
mattyboynig
pecker checker?...lol k and '' DUDE your 17 you may not grow in hight but there are more things that will grow. dont be a dumb ass. good things come for those who wait.'' ???? what can go wrong other then not hight????!!?!?!  

14 Feb 2007 04:22
mattyboynig
like width?  

14 Feb 2007 04:23
John H
ok matty... lets review what has been said here. your first post asked us not to criticize you, and to help you out. and you specifically asked if anyone knew about things that could go wrong later in life from using steroids. well you got a whole list of things that can go seriously wrong, including man-boobs, sterility, limp dick, and DEATH. we even let you know that you can potentially do the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you want and screw up your growth plates. just because this isnt what you wanted to hear doesnt mean you can reject it. you asked for it and we gave you the truth so if you werent going to listen why the **** did you ask in the first place?  

14 Feb 2007 04:46
JDIESEL
what he said^^^ bro were just tryin to help ya....theres a lot of guys who started using to early and are paying and regretting for it now....  

14 Feb 2007 06:21
Crazy_eyes
I have heart problems at 17 buddy, from steroids. so if you think you are remotely ready for this than your body is gonna kick your ass. You dont seem to get it, this will possibly **** up all your body's natural functions. Everyone is telling you otherwise, so why dont you fcking listen? But go ahead jackass, **** up your body and watch with regret as you dont grow, lose anything you gained, **** up your arteries, **** up your natural test production, grow tits, lose your hair, and **** up pretty much everything hormonal related, people can and have died from this shit. So grow the **** up and stop being so ****ing ignorant.  

14 Feb 2007 09:58
Morgan
I think alot of people on here have got alot more experience than you. you should try listening to them. they aren't lying to you or giving bad advice.

:screwy:

:screwy:  

14 Feb 2007 17:26
flippin it
lock this thread...its getting outta control and i think it just needs to end right here.  

14 Feb 2007 19:10
LukeVTS
youre not eatin right then if you've stopped growing. post your diet up. if you dont gain, its only down to not enough calories, period.  

14 Feb 2007 22:15
mattyboynig
hhm k thanks  

15 Feb 2007 01:10
JDIESEL
[QUOTE=flippin it]lock this thread...its getting outta control and i think it just needs to end right here.[/QUOTE]




bump^^^ everything has been said no need to keep beating a dead horse  

15 Feb 2007 01:11
mattyboynig
wait ok one more thing k thanks 4 letting me know but i have a question for the guy who said he has ppl he knows who regret using it why do they regret it? and most side affects are of long term high dose ppl thanks  

15 Feb 2007 10:09
Morgan
this guy will never get it

<------------do you want to look like him????

:screwy: :screwy: :screwy: :screwy: :screwy:  

15 Feb 2007 17:03
JDIESEL
[QUOTE=mattyboynig]wait ok one more thing k thanks 4 letting me know but i have a question for the guy who said he has ppl he knows who regret using it why do they regret it? and most side affects are of long term high dose ppl thanks[/QUOTE]


bcuz why start doin it before you reach your natural peak?? all your gonna do is make gains that you could make without them at that age......and if you could prove your statement about long term sides only come from high dosages i would love to see it  

15 Feb 2007 18:07
phantom80
this is the dumbest person i have ever witnessed on any board i have ever been on
he has been warned about what can happen
he might want to ask his doctor what he thinks about the subject
steroids are NOT safe
they are like russian roullette at any age
they are a gamble
it seems to me that this kid is trying to make the jump from house league hockey to a career in it
what he doesn t know is that the CMJHA is implimenting drug testing and if he gets caught he will have a life long suspension set agains him
and yes matt there are certain peole out there from the CMJHA that read this board too
so i think you just shot yourself in the face
i am 40 yrs old and had "little dog syndrome" from the time i was 15 til the time i was about 30
i was not very big
but i used my head
i listened to people
when they (the people on this board) tell you to not use
i would listen to them
i let my body take its natural course
then took some suppliments
in the long run you will be happier
p.s.
i had a friend he was 325 lbs
he took steroids starting at about 18
last year he had a triple by pass surgery
this is the honest truth
not trying to scare ya
P  

23 Feb 2007 21:48
JDIESEL
[QUOTE=phantom80]this is the dumbest person i have ever witnessed on any board i have ever been on
he has been warned about what can happen
[B]he might want to ask his doctor what he thinks about the subject[/B]
steroids are NOT safe
they are like russian roullette at any age
they are a gamble
it seems to me that this kid is trying to make the jump from house league hockey to a career in it
what he doesn t know is that the CMJHA is implimenting drug testing and if he gets caught he will have a life long suspension set agains him
and yes matt there are certain peole out there from the CMJHA that read this board too
so i think you just shot yourself in the face
i am 40 yrs old and had "little dog syndrome" from the time i was 15 til the time i was about 30
i was not very big
but i used my head
i listened to people
when they (the people on this board) tell you to not use
i would listen to them
i let my body take its natural course
then took some suppliments
in the long run you will be happier
p.s.
i had a friend he was 325 lbs
he took steroids starting at about 18
last year he had a triple by pass surgery
this is the honest truth
not trying to scare ya
P[/QUOTE]




thats one thing that you dont wanna do....most doctors will not help ya at all if they find out your using and can have you dropped from your insurance bcuz of it  

23 Feb 2007 23:25
Dex
your friend had triple bypass because he was a fatass not from steroids  

23 Feb 2007 23:57
president_fad
ya, your friend was a fat pile of shit. Steroids don tdo that to you.  

24 Feb 2007 00:24
JDIESEL
and how are steroids like russian roullette?? :screwy:  

24 Feb 2007 00:27
Dex
you pick needles out of the garbage and buy your steroids from a creepy old man named AMERFOOTBALL in a dark alleyway. Then after when you proceed to leave he pulls down your pants and possibly gives you AIDS....

this happen to anyone else??  

24 Feb 2007 02:49
estray
[QUOTE=Dex]you pick needles out of the garbage and buy your steroids from a creepy old man named AMERFOOTBALL in a dark alleyway. Then after when you proceed to leave he pulls down your pants and possibly gives you AIDS....

this happen to anyone else??[/QUOTE]


Nope, just you apparently.  

24 Feb 2007 05:07
Subject117
I like pigs feet  

24 Feb 2007 06:04
canibalistic_js
yukkkkkkkkkkkk f*ckin hill billies  

24 Feb 2007 06:09

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