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collinskr
Hey I just got some stanazol steroids 25 mg capsuls (50 per bottle) It looks like its made by qfs international? but their company symbol is hard to make out. My only concern is that on the label it also says oral anabolic steroid for veterinary use. I was wondering if anyone has used this type before and can give me any advice as it is my first time. Anything would be appreciated.
THANKS  

18 Jul 2004 01:52

Smallguy
first off welcome to the board secondly

winny can be taken orally and injected and it is a vetinary drug

thirdly do some reasearch before putting anyithng into your body because winny is not recommended by itself and should only be run for 6 or 7 weeks max at a tims due ot it being 17AA

here is a lnik ot get you started

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catwinstrol.htm


Smallguy  

18 Jul 2004 02:02
collinskr
thanks a lot for the info and link. Now I've read up on it and winstrol is what looks best to me. Most of what i've read though says pills are 2mg, 5mg or 10mg tops. The ones i have are 25 mg and they are capsules not tabs. I have 2 bottles of 50 pills in each. I Don't want to gain more than 10/15 lbs tops. Can you give me anymore information about this specific type of stanazol? My main concern is that i haven't found any info on these capsule type pills, all i've found is on much smaller does in tabs. I'm 23 yrs old 6'2 190 lbs. What would be the recommended dosage for me. 50 mg a day? that would give me 7 week cycle. Or should i do 75mg or 100mg spaced out during the day? Remember im almost happy with my body, only want 10 lbs and i've been working our for a few years. Just want a bit more size overall.

THANKS  

19 Jul 2004 00:33
bigtred
50 mg per day is the minimum 75 will give better results. But for adding mass winny is a poor choice, it is also a little tough on the liver over the long haul. I really think you need to read more my friend. Besides adding 10 lbs of lean mass can be achieved natuarally with a good diet and training. AAS should be used when when you feel you've peaked naturally.............. just my opinion.....  

19 Jul 2004 00:59
collinskr
thanks but you didn't really answer any of my questions, from what i've read and from talking to people whinstrol seems perfect for what i want. I have a hard time gaining weight, i do eat properly and train regularly but my metobolism is just too fast, very hard to gain a few lbs let alone 10.  

19 Jul 2004 03:22
hardbodies5
collinskr...I agree with what the others have said. if only about ten pounds is what your looking to improve on, try the natural why with a few pro-hormones and good quality protien..good luck and keep training hard  

19 Jul 2004 03:39
MarkyM
[QUOTE=bigtred]50 mg per day is the minimum 75 will give better results. But for adding mass winny is a poor choice, it is also a little tough on the liver over the long haul. I really think you need to read more my friend. Besides adding 10 lbs of lean mass can be achieved natuarally with a good diet and training. AAS should be used when when you feel you've peaked naturally.............. just my opinion.....[/QUOTE]

Well said! :thumbs:  

19 Jul 2004 11:36
collinskr
thanks for the info guys. I do eat properly and get enough protein. I've used shakes on and off as well as creatine. I really don't know much about steroids but i know how to eat/work out and what works best for me. I just gain weight very slowly. Im almost where i want to be. From what i've heard i chose winstrol because it seems to have little side effects compared to others and because u dont gain much size on it and it also helps for a little fat burning. I like what i've read on it but like i said, i dont know much. If you all really think winstrol is such a bad idea for me what else can you suggest instead. and does anyone have anything positive to say about it? or any tips if i do decide to use it? Also this is probably just a 1 time deal, my liver should be fine from a 6 week cycle right?
thanks again!  

21 Jul 2004 01:03
HellsOutlaw
liver damage from AAS is a bunch of bull, how many of you guys have actually had liver function test done while on oral AAS showing abnormal liver functions??? ****ing not one of you, or with test results showing damage without a doubt from oral AAS none of you, and none of you know anybody, so shut up!! 10 pounds naturally? yea he can gain that in 2 years, and obviously that isnt what he wants to do, and whoever said winny cant be used for bulking? ****ing bullshit, that variable depends entirely on your diet!!! Collinskr im sure you do have a good diet, but a good diet on AAS is totally differnt probably than the diet your on right now, at 190 i would advise 200Grams+ protien a day mostly from organic foods, fish, chicken Etc. Shakes are ok just dont depend on them only use them if its not possable to obtain you desired amount of protien, get 4000+ calories a day from organic, natural foods not fast food or junk food and while on AAS 100+grams of fat, and as far as your winny goes run it for 8 weeks minimum at 50mg ED so your gonna need a couple more bottles......also as you get to week 6 or so you may decide to up your winny which i highly advise and remember at week 6 your gonna need more calories and protien to grow than at weeks 4 or 5 on weeks 8 your gonna need more protien and calories to grow than on weeks 6 and 7 get the picture? 100mg is fine ive ran it.... your more than welcome to try it, there isnt a damn thing wrong with experimenting,all of these bros go on what the hear yada yada yada and take everything for granted,,,,,,,dont forget proper PCT if you need any help or even have one question your better off talking talk to me, @ russianoutlaw182@hushmail.com  

25 Jul 2004 09:48
HellsOutlaw
oh and another thing practice what you preach, i almost garuntee you 90% of guys/girls on AAS didnt wait till they hit that "natural Peak"plataue" which is all one of those things guys say when they hang out on these boards all the time....hahaha what would be the fun in that????????  

25 Jul 2004 09:51
Smallguy
[QUOTE=HellsOutlaw]liver damage from AAS is a bunch of bull, how many of you guys have actually had liver function test done while on oral AAS showing abnormal liver functions??? ****ing not one of you, or with test results showing damage without a doubt from oral AAS none of you, and none of you know anybody, so shut up!! 10 pounds naturally? yea he can gain that in 2 years, and obviously that isnt what he wants to do, and whoever said winny cant be used for bulking? ****ing bullshit, that variable depends entirely on your diet!!! Collinskr im sure you do have a good diet, but a good diet on AAS is totally differnt probably than the diet your on right now, at 190 i would advise 200Grams+ protien a day mostly from organic foods, fish, chicken Etc. Shakes are ok just dont depend on them only use them if its not possable to obtain you desired amount of protien, get 4000+ calories a day from organic, natural foods not fast food or junk food and while on AAS 100+grams of fat, and as far as your winny goes run it for 8 weeks minimum at 50mg ED so your gonna need a couple more bottles......also as you get to week 6 or so you may decide to up your winny which i highly advise and remember at week 6 your gonna need more calories and protien to grow than at weeks 4 or 5 on weeks 8 your gonna need more protien and calories to grow than on weeks 6 and 7 get the picture? 100mg is fine ive ran it.... your more than welcome to try it, there isnt a damn thing wrong with experimenting,all of these bros go on what the hear yada yada yada and take everything for granted,,,,,,,dont forget proper PCT if you need any help or even have one question your better off talking talk to me, @ russianoutlaw182@hushmail.com[/QUOTE]


Glad your a doctor and know everything, he's in your hangs now

one last point ask Flex and my buddy john what riods did t their bodies


my buddy john can never take in protien powders again according to is doctors and spent mnoths in the hospital when his kidneys and live shut down in his mid 20's

Smallguy  

25 Jul 2004 15:49
bigtred
HellsOutlaw, it's people like you who can endanger others with poor advice. If you haven't seen anyone with elevated liver values on orals then you OBVIOUSLY haven't been around.
Secondly, no one said you can't bulk on winny, just that it's a poor choice.

Practice what I preach? I waited till I was thirty-five to do my first cycle, with MANY years of training under my belt................how bout you?

And, to gain 10 pounds on someone who HASN'T reached their peak yet is VERY easy, I don't care how fast your metabolism is! Look around and you'll see thousands of guys on these forums that are pure ectomorphs and have still managed to gain. It's called "dedication".

If someone wants to jump into AAS, I will not stop them, I will only encourage them to learn as much as possible FIRST.................  

25 Jul 2004 16:32
Durabolin
POst up your training and daily diet - we will see what we can tweak as if you only need 10lbs at your weight and training time it can be done naturally. Have you tried a 5x5 routine? Do you deadlift, squat, bent row and bench every week?

Winstrol is a poor choice. It is VERY harsh on the joints first and foremost. Second Hellsoutlaw I have had blood work often and orals raise my liver values of course and if taken excessively - beyond 50mg ED for 6 weeks you are asking for trouble.

Instead of using winstrol, as you want lean mass and only want orals - I would use Anavar - it is expensive but has all the cosmetic advantages of winstrol with none of the joint problems, and less hair loss. Winstrol is very harsh on the hair.

Otherwise more optimal would be 250mg test/week 200mg Eq/week both for 8 weeks. Low doses but 10lbs would be acheived nicely on this stack. You will need anti-e's for this and in both cases a good PCT  

25 Jul 2004 18:13
HellsOutlaw
Smallguy-blah blah blah you can ask my buddys mothers, dads sister what oral steroids did to their bodys Oh please man!!! I dont have to go ask, and why would i take what you say for granted why dont you post up something proving what your saying....wait i know why b/c you cant!!

bigtred-"people like me that endanger others?????????? Tell me what advice i gave that would endanger this mans health? Ive seen your post here and on Freakz and you obviously are far from a know it all...and if somebody wants to jump on AS you will encourage them? well what the **** this guy wants to jump on winny and what did you tell him? thats what i thought!

durabolin- sides from winny dont nearly outweight the gains....Winny is a great choice..IMO And more than 6 weeks of orals over 50mg ED your asking for trouble? oh really? you must know something i dont....  

25 Jul 2004 21:48
bigtred
I don't know what you saw that I posted on Freakz cause I rarely post??? I never claimed to be a "know it all" I just read ALOT and make my own judgements from the info I've read.
And as for quoting me, "encourage them"..............please put the rest........"encourage them to LEARN............"

People should make their own decisions by being INFORMED  

25 Jul 2004 22:07
Durabolin
[QUOTE=HellsOutlaw]Smallguy-blah blah blah you can ask my buddys mothers, dads sister what oral steroids did to their bodys Oh please man!!! I dont have to go ask, and why would i take what you say for granted why dont you post up something proving what your saying....wait i know why b/c you cant!!

bigtred-"people like me that endanger others?????????? Tell me what advice i gave that would endanger this mans health? Ive seen your post here and on Freakz and you obviously are far from a know it all...and if somebody wants to jump on AS you will encourage them? well what the **** this guy wants to jump on winny and what did you tell him? thats what i thought!

durabolin- sides from winny dont nearly outweight the gains....Winny is a great choice..IMO And more than 6 weeks of orals over 50mg ED your asking for trouble? oh really? you must know something i dont....[/QUOTE]

Outlaw - winstrol for over 6 weeks is going to cause alot of aches and pains in most people, there are exceptions of course. But for the majority of people damage to joints caused by malformed collagen is not worth the risk with many more alternatives. As you get older you realise that your joints are the number one thing to look after if you want to train beyond 25. All the steroids in the world wont make you look good if your knees and shoulders are too busted to train effectively and do cardio.

More than 6 weeks on 50mg is a strain on the liver. I speak from my own blood tests and others, as well as accepted authorities on steroids in body building. Have you had blood tests done? Do you know of many people who have had having used winstrol for longer and at similiar or higher doses?  

25 Jul 2004 22:20
Smallguy
[QUOTE=HellsOutlaw]Smallguy-blah blah blah you can ask my buddys mothers, dads sister what oral steroids did to their bodys Oh please man!!! I dont have to go ask, and why would i take what you say for granted why dont you post up something proving what your saying....wait i know why b/c you cant!!

bigtred-"people like me that endanger others?????????? Tell me what advice i gave that would endanger this mans health? Ive seen your post here and on Freakz and you obviously are far from a know it all...and if somebody wants to jump on AS you will encourage them? well what the **** this guy wants to jump on winny and what did you tell him? thats what i thought!

durabolin- sides from winny dont nearly outweight the gains....Winny is a great choice..IMO And more than 6 weeks of orals over 50mg ED your asking for trouble? oh really? you must know something i dont....[/QUOTE]

well why not look at a few things bro if oyu knew anytihng you wolud know flex AKA Flex Wheeler or quadzilla is a pro bodbuilding who had both kidney problems.... and it was drug related.

http://www.shawnray.net/home2000/bodycomemtary/BC_commentaries/BC_2004/rieordie.html

also look at

http://www.anabolicsmall.com/roidb4a.htm

this person has things called references.. they mean someone researched steriods and liver damage

here is another one

http://www.sportsci.org/encyc/anabstereff/anabstereff.html

an other

http://menshealth.about.com/cs/fitness/a/anab_steroids.htm


this is my last point on this thread..... too bad you ruined it with your "knowledge"

Smallguy  

25 Jul 2004 23:02
HellsOutlaw
i have so much to say, not the respect to say it.....all of you guys are right, who was i trying to fool.  

26 Jul 2004 05:47
shortz
Guys, let's not get all bent out of shape over this. Here are the facts that we know...

17aa is chemical bonded to a drug so it withstands several passes from the liver. 17aa are commonly exaggerated when it comes to liver toxicity, but, when it comes to the kidneys, they are more likely to be effected than the liver. The liver can regenerate and heal quickyl, the kidneys cannot.

Some are more proned to kidney problems than others. It can be on an individualistic basis, but their is no way of telling this unless you get blood work.

"more than 6 weeks at 50mg of winny is asking for trouble"...if you're not getting blood work done to determine if it is bad, how do you know it's not bad? You don't, so I would have to agree with Dura on that.

All drugs have a certain amount of toxicity. This isn't with just AAS.

On a last note, Flex's kidney disorder was most likely due to diuretics. Many pros don't use tabs. Lasix are EXTREMEMLY hard on the kidneys.  

26 Jul 2004 06:31
temoBletleFag
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25 Sep 2008 03:19
rod
hey guys, first time blogger.

been training for years and playing league but wanting to strip down fat.
got my hands on stanazol tabs .5 mls each tab, just curious to no if they are affective for weight loss and how i should be cycling them. ive been told 3 tabs a day, so all up 1.5 mls a day for 6 days a week for a 6 week cycle. does that sound about right??

any info much appreciated:thumbs:  

05 Nov 2008 02:53

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