First Cycle

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H.B.L.R.
A friend of mine has been doing some reading on AAS. He found that all AASs have sides. But that there are supplements u can take to combat sides. He chose to base his cycle on fina, the best AAS out there, and made a (Spider Chart) of sort. To both stack and help sides of fina. He thinks its too much but nesessary. Does this seem about right.

Doses not yet established:
Fina- main base
HCG- to combat shrinking nuts
Nolvadex- to combat gyno

Test-Prop- adjuster and to help with fina dick
Arimidex- should be used with Nolvadex and Test-Prop

HGH- orals, for general health and fat loss

Dianabol- recommended as a stacker with fina, but this might just be too much

He chose fina cuz of its rep. and test-prop cuz of its, some but lower ester to get more roids from it. HGH he wants to help recovery and fat loss. Dianabol is a stack for bulking. Is there other advise for him.  

27 Jun 2006 05:36

estray
Any other advice? Yeah, scrap that whole cycle. It sucks for a beginner. A long ester test like enan or cyp is all you should do. You got so much shit in there if you start getting sides youll have no idea what drug is causing it. Not to mention the amount of injections every week. Tren is a great steroid, just not for a beginner.  

27 Jun 2006 06:34
H.B.L.R.
Ok, so u suggesting just cycle with test with a longer ester
and no stack?  

27 Jun 2006 06:53
H.B.L.R.
cuz thats against what I have learned  

27 Jun 2006 06:54
estray
Yes and thats what everyone here is gonna tell ya.It doesn sound like you have a very good grasp on how this stuff works. There would be no reason to run dbol with test prop. Its a short ester and kicks in right away. You usually run dbol for first 4 weeks with long ester test so you still get gains while waiting for test to kick in. You can use the HCG if you want to and you def wanna have nolva around. But I would def say no to tren or test prop. Also you dont mention pct. what are you gonna use for that?  

27 Jun 2006 07:15
H.B.L.R.
someone said masteron and dbal  

27 Jun 2006 07:30
jcvaughn26
[QUOTE=H.B.L.R.]someone said masteron and dbal[/QUOTE]


no not a good cycle IMO. test only is a great cycle. I would recommend it to a newbie and a vet adjust the dosage accordingly and the type of ester if you want. Test should be the base of all good cycles IMO.  

27 Jun 2006 07:50
H.B.L.R.
Damn!! I really wanted to use Fina. But **** it I asked for advice and im gonna play on it. Ill read and learn more before starting. lol I almost ****ed myself up.  

27 Jun 2006 08:32
H.B.L.R.
One final Q can masteron really help with gyno and shrinking nuts? This is a must know Q.  

27 Jun 2006 08:48
Storm
Where the hell are you getting your info b/c you are so wrong on so many levsl with what your saying.  

27 Jun 2006 09:51
bignready
only test e or test c 500mg a week for 10 weeks.keep nolve in case of gyno.have nlove ans'or clomid for pct.that's it. eat alot and train hard.don't worry about these other ones until your more experienced.in fact i wouldn't even do this cycle till you read up on it more.hormones are great stuff,but if you don't use em wisely you will **** up your body for life  

27 Jun 2006 12:39
EL2
Another, "I need this info for my friend thread", Afraid of getting flamed or too lazy to do proper research?  

27 Jun 2006 15:29
estray
[QUOTE=H.B.L.R.]One final Q can masteron really help with gyno and shrinking nuts? This is a must know Q.[/QUOTE]


Read the profile in the anabolic section for masteron and tell me if it sounds like it does either of those. In case you cant find it, heres the link.

http://www.bbforums.com/showthread.php?t=130  

27 Jun 2006 16:45
cowcountry
[QUOTE=EL2]Another, "I need this info for my friend thread", Afraid of getting flamed or too lazy to do proper research?[/QUOTE]


I thought the same thing, but in his defense it more sounded like the *cough* "friend" *cough* approach as to him actually being serious in thinking we would think it was for his friend.

Anyhow, How old are you and how long have you been lifting???  

27 Jun 2006 18:28
AMERFOOTBALL
this is crazy. first off you tried playing the friend game. then you go on to list crazy info. im not flaming you, i just think this is funny.first off, what are your stats? age, experience, hieght weight? then what exactly do you eat everyday? then what does your training regime look like?  

27 Jun 2006 21:05
H.B.L.R.
[QUOTE=EL2]Another, "I need this info for my friend thread", Afraid of getting flamed or too lazy to do proper research?[/QUOTE]




YEAH! Lets all talk about shit that can get us locked up? You never know. For all I know u can be a pig. We cant get locked up by having knowledge dick.  

27 Jun 2006 23:21
estray
Take it easy. No one ever got locked up for talking about steroids in first person. No need to use the "friend" route. If its for you just say so.  

27 Jun 2006 23:24
H.B.L.R.
[QUOTE=cowcountry]I thought the same thing, but in his defense it more sounded like the *cough* "friend" *cough* approach as to him actually being serious in thinking we would think it was for his friend.

Anyhow, How old are you and how long have you been lifting???[/QUOTE]



Im 21 and been lifting for ~6 years but it was for football, soccer and wrestling. Im trying to get into bodybuilding. Im fit just not bulky.  

27 Jun 2006 23:26
H.B.L.R.
[QUOTE=estray]Take it easy. No one ever got locked up for talking about steroids in first person. No need to use the "friend" route. If its for you just say so.[/QUOTE]


Well spenca. I want info from peeps that know. He doesnt give advice just talks shit. He doesnt want to help then tell him to stfu.  

27 Jun 2006 23:29
estray
Ok then. You should spend some time working on your diet before you start taking anything cause if its not right, steroids wont help you at all.  

27 Jun 2006 23:31
Storm
Well you went form saying your friend to "I really wanted to use tren" so you switched it yourself there pal..Again your info your posting is off mark so where ever your doing your readng it is wrong yes we are in the know so don;t beat aorund the bush tell it like it is..

read the board you will see very fast we playa round alot but questions and info gets answered and answered right no bullshit..So you can keep up and learn or stfu yourself.  

27 Jun 2006 23:34
H.B.L.R.
[QUOTE=AMERFOOTBALL]this is crazy. first off you tried playing the friend game. then you go on to list crazy info. im not flaming you, i just think this is funny.first off, what are your stats? age, experience, hieght weight? then what exactly do you eat everyday? then what does your training regime look like?[/QUOTE]

If u are really asking.
Im 21, been lifting for ~6 years , ~5'7", ~150-155lbs, bench ~250-275mx, I eat ~5X a day try to eat ~150 gram or more of ptn with meals. daily. monday do all upperbody then box for 1hr fast and hard with situps every 5min. tuesday lowerbody then sprint for 1hr with situps every 5min. Rest wndy. Strip thursday and friday same routine as before. Rest satu, sundy. I get stronger just not bigger.  

27 Jun 2006 23:42
estray
[QUOTE=H.B.L.R.]Well spenca. I want info from peeps that know. He doesnt give advice just talks shit. He doesnt want to help then tell him to stfu.[/QUOTE]


Well he knows his shit and obviously he can smell a load of it a mile away cause he was right about you.  

27 Jun 2006 23:43
H.B.L.R.
[QUOTE=Storm]Well you went form saying your friend to "I really wanted to use tren" so you switched it yourself there pal..Again your info your posting is off mark so where ever your doing your readng it is wrong yes we are in the know so don;t beat aorund the bush tell it like it is..

read the board you will see very fast we playa round alot but questions and info gets answered and answered right no bullshit..So you can keep up and learn or stfu yourself.[/QUOTE]


Bitch. Again with useless shit this aint the view dont start drama u dont want to help then dont the only whos been helping is the estray guy  

27 Jun 2006 23:48
H.B.L.R.
u guys seem to know your shit but all u say is go read this go read that, instead of recommendation or your own experiences thats what i want  

27 Jun 2006 23:53
Storm
[QUOTE=H.B.L.R.]Bitch. Again with useless shit this aint the view dont start drama u dont want to help then dont the only whos been helping is the estray guy[/QUOTE]


Did you just call me a bitch?? Your the one who doesn;t know jack fckn shit I explined what you can do it is about resersch so if you want to keep acting like your are I can gladly show your ass out..Up to you mouth off again and your done or back down and you casn learn everyting you want to here..  

27 Jun 2006 23:56
H.B.L.R.
Ahahahaahah. Yes I called u a bitch. u dont like it fck off  

28 Jun 2006 00:00
H.B.L.R.
Im here to learn but i dont need shit from u  

28 Jun 2006 00:02
Storm
[QUOTE=H.B.L.R.]Ahahahaahah. Yes I called u a bitch. u dont like it fck off[/QUOTE]


Um no I will just ban you little patheic dumbass bye bye...  

28 Jun 2006 00:03
estray
[QUOTE=H.B.L.R.]u guys seem to know your shit but all u say is go read this go read that, instead of recommendation or your own experiences thats what i want[/QUOTE]


If we tell you what to do, then you havent learned shit. Steroids are nothing to take lightly. Besides, would you stick a bunch of stuff in your body just cause someone told you. I spent 8 months reading and learning about this stuff b4 i ever picked up a needle. We just want ppl to show some respect for the drug. It can be dangerous in the wrong hands. We have a great section here with all the drug profiles. spend some time reading them and then come ask questions.  

28 Jun 2006 00:03
estray
What a dumb fckin tool.  

28 Jun 2006 00:04
Storm
quickly proved he wasn't worth the skin he lives in..  

28 Jun 2006 00:05
estray
Lmao. Im surprised you let him go that long. I thought he was gone for sure after the bitch comment.  

28 Jun 2006 00:08
jcvaughn26
[QUOTE=H.B.L.R.]u guys seem to know your shit but all u say is go read this go read that, instead of recommendation or your own experiences thats what i want[/QUOTE]

That's because we had to do the same thing. I'm not going to sit here and spoon feed you telling you to take this and that and you not know why. **** off if you think storm is being a dick he's very knowledgeable if you give us the impression that you have half a brain we'll give you respect, but if you're a dick get bent.  

28 Jun 2006 00:10
SO SO
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!! u dumb ****
and BY THE WAY you didnt say shit estray already didnt
the truth is u dont know jack shit  

28 Jun 2006 00:10
Storm
hmmm now how did I know your were going to prove me right...  

28 Jun 2006 00:12
Storm
Hahahah what's wrong "The Lame" gotcha before you could post??  

28 Jun 2006 00:23
SMBLSBGARMS
Damn! I missed this one! Where the hell do these tards come from?
Everyone's 10ft tall and bulletproof on the internet. Wouldn't it be fun to just once track one down and show up at his house:mad:

Catch the 90lb midget playing in his underwear on his mom's computer.  

13 Jul 2006 23:29

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