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estray
Already looking ahead to cutting cycle and came across this.

[QUOTE=Smallguy]well bro first of all welcome to bbf

but now to your questions I perrsonally strngly beleive u need test in every cycle if if it was me this is what I'd run

weeks 1-12 500mg of test preferalby a sohrt ester ot minimize water retention
weeks 1-10 400mg of EQ
weeks 6-12 50my of winny a day --- I'd use it orally

then cycle the clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off therough out

and post cycle therapy will start based on what kindda test u choose

no need for cytomel IMO[/QUOTE]

Questions are:
What do the rest of you think of this cycle?
How much food to eat while on? Surplus or deficit
How long to wait after end of first cycle of test b4 starting next cycle?
How much cardio if any while on this cycle? Dont wanna stress the heart.

Thanks
E  

19 May 2006 00:06

canibalistic_js
I would run tren with it but I love tren it makes you look really hard  

19 May 2006 00:43
AMERFOOTBALL
[QUOTE=estray]Already looking ahead to cutting cycle and came across this.



Questions are:
What do the rest of you think of this cycle?
How much food to eat while on? Surplus or deficit
How long to wait after end of first cycle of test b4 starting next cycle?
How much cardio if any while on this cycle? Dont wanna stress the heart.

Thanks
E[/QUOTE]
not a bad cycle. you could even run a long ester but use a-dex or proviron to limit bloat.
I would run at maintence or slight defict.
time on=time off so if your first cycle is 12 weeks, take 12 off.
still do cardio 3x per week.  

19 May 2006 17:28
canibalistic_js
Do not run a longer ester with idex it's just a bad idea. Run the damn cycle above and add some tren.  

19 May 2006 18:31
estray
Thanks  

19 May 2006 21:43
AMERFOOTBALL
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]Do not run a longer ester with idex it's just a bad idea. Run the damn cycle above and add some tren.[/QUOTE]

Why not?  

19 May 2006 23:58
canibalistic_js
AMR the idea is to keep gains while cutting and if, you so choose to use arimidex with a longer esters it will only hinder further gains due to the supression of IGF-1 and GH. I ran a 15 test cycle (10 that everyone on here knows about) and used idex eod for a week a lost a lot of gains and became really small, needless to say I went back to nolva. In esence you need to be as anabolice as possible when cutting and it's more cost effective  

20 May 2006 01:36
AMERFOOTBALL
i see. a long ester with proviron would stave off some bloat and you would still have great gains though.  

20 May 2006 01:55
canibalistic_js
I heard that's an excellant cycle I think I read it off another board but who knows, it's all trial and error and what works for me don't work for you  

20 May 2006 02:05
cowcountry
Proviron has anabolic capabilities and is known as "oral Masteron". use it if you can afford to. just be sure to start it about a week before starting your test. It won't inhibit gains in that it doesn't suppress estrogen production but binds to the aromatase enzyme.  

20 May 2006 02:21
AMERFOOTBALL
[QUOTE=cowcountry]Proviron has anabolic capabilities and is known as "oral Masteron". use it if you can afford to. just be sure to start it about a week before starting your test. It won't inhibit gains in that it doesn't suppress estrogen production but binds to the aromatase enzyme.[/QUOTE]

so if thats the case, there shouldn't be a need for nolva while on proviron, right?  

20 May 2006 19:31
Storm
Well tec proviro isn't realy an anti-e what it does is lets the body use more free test so there is less of a conversion so that is how it helps with the estrogen not by occupying the space of conversion like nolvadex or actually lowering the estrogen like the new generation ant-e as armia,letro etc....  

20 May 2006 20:27
AMERFOOTBALL
so there is still a chance to get gyno and thus nolva should be on hand, right? also would that mean that you should continue the proviron into pct?  

22 May 2006 15:11
blp4677
i see a guy told you to take some tren bro that stuff is awesome i took 600mg a week for 8 weeks and got some bad ass results you dont hold any water and dont produce any estrogen i took it by itself and stayed on my cycle alot longer then i should but the stuff works mine was trenbolone 200mg its from british dragon products i am telling you you will love it if you try it and it gives you a very very bad temper so be careful hahaha  

22 May 2006 16:23
estray
When you say good results did you drop bodyfat while on the cycle of tren? Probably get a bad temper cause it hurts so much to inject from what ive heard.:laughing:  

22 May 2006 17:01
Storm
Yea BD tren has had alot of bad press and your tmeper is for you to control.Tren by itslef yet good is a bad choice since tren shuts you down super bad so you could def run into no sex drive..It also causes a dif type of gyno so dont cut it short on the estrogen side it can cause pregesteron gyno..

Now on the provirion during PCT no you don;t take it provirion is anabolic so none during PCT..  

22 May 2006 18:57
Monsteriod
I think what you have chosen is quite good. But I'd rather go for Prop with Trenbolone, for max 6weeks, and surely Clen with Winstrol in the last 3weeks.

Let me know ur opinion guys  

14 Apr 2008 19:38
Morgan
this post is from 2 yrs ago, might check the dates before you post  

14 Apr 2008 20:40

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