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Bigdog Leo
Hello everyone. I am new to this messaging format. I am 27 5'11 and weight 195.I have been reading many of the messages that have been left on this site and a few other sites about the best use of staking cycle for beginners. I have never used roids before but lately I have been doing some research on different types of roids and their side effects and best use. I am looking to do 1 cycle and that is it. Some people have given me some advice as to what I should take. I was advised to take an 8 week cycle of Eq and Test-E. I would like to stay with something that has little side effects and is not as toxic to the liver. Do any of you have any good advice for a beginner like me?
Thanks

Leo  

09 Feb 2006 07:31

Smallguy
well welcome to BBF

first of all with is ur diet and triaiing like ??


the advice u got plain sucks and here is why Test-E tkaes 4 weeks ot kick in so does EQ there fore u'r only really getting 4 weeks of gear in your system before it starts droppnig off

I'd recommend a test only cycle 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks  

09 Feb 2006 07:44
canibalistic_js
Whst your experience with training?  

09 Feb 2006 07:48
Robfromny
one cycle... HA! we'll see buddy  

09 Feb 2006 07:59
Storm
yea that was my favorite part too only one cycle...  

09 Feb 2006 08:51
CUTS
haha i love it when people say that. im doing test cyp and eq right now but im only in the first week so i'll let ya know in a few weeks how its going. if your worried about your liver drink alot of water and take alot of milk thistle  

09 Feb 2006 10:01
bignready
again.liv52 for your liver.and we all gonna do one cycle(until the 2nd)  

09 Feb 2006 13:54
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=Bigdog Leo]Hello everyone. I am new to this messaging format. I am 27 5'11 and weight 195.I have been reading many of the messages that have been left on this site and a few other sites about the best use of staking cycle for beginners. I have never used roids before but lately I have been doing some research on different types of roids and their side effects and best use. I am looking to do 1 cycle and that is it. Some people have given me some advice as to what I should take. I was advised to take an 8 week cycle of Eq and Test-E. [B]I would like to stay with something that has little side effects and is not as toxic to the liver.[/B] Do any of you have any good advice for a beginner like me?
Thanks

Leo[/QUOTE]
weeks
1-8 Test E 400mg ( 200mg on Monday, and 200mg on Friday)

PCT, 10-14 days after last shot....4 weeks of nolvadex at..40/40/40/20  

09 Feb 2006 15:33
Smallguy
[QUOTE=Patrick_Bateman]weeks
1-8 Test E 400mg ( 200mg on Monday, and 200mg on Friday)

PCT, 10-14 days after last shot....4 weeks of nolvadex at..40/40/40/20[/QUOTE]

you could do that cycle if you want ot do a shitty cycle  

09 Feb 2006 17:04
CUTS
lol Smile  

09 Feb 2006 19:23
Bigdog Leo
Thanks for the advice.
I eat every 3 hours and drink 2 to 3 whey shakes daily. I can pretty much eat anything with out a problem. I supplement with No-xplode, Nitrix and take all my daily Vitamins. I drink lots of water and I stay away from junk food. My training is Monday to Friday with no cardio. I do feel stronger since I started taking No-xplode and Nitrix it has been 2 months. Before that I took regular Creatine and NO2. My experience with training goes back to my early 20's but I have been lifting harder for the last 12 months. I always like to learn more about subjects that interest me so I also do lots of reading and try to talk to anyone that knows more than me about lifting.
I am looking to put on size and get hard would a Test only cycle help me achieve that?  

09 Feb 2006 20:19
cwshorns
Yes, a test only cylce is great for your first cycle; i would make sure it wasn't test prop though. Good Luck  

09 Feb 2006 20:35
Bigdog Leo
what do you recommend as far as Test?  

09 Feb 2006 20:39
canibalistic_js
enanthate or cypionate  

09 Feb 2006 21:04
Bigdog Leo
ok that sounds good. Should I do it for 12 weeks or 8 weeks?  

09 Feb 2006 21:09
AMERFOOTBALL
12 weeks. cyp and enanthate are long esters. they won't kick in until week 4 or so. some even take those tests out to 15 weeks. 12 will be fine though...  

09 Feb 2006 21:26
Bigdog Leo
Thank you.  

09 Feb 2006 21:57
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=Smallguy]you could do that cycle if you want ot do a shitty cycle[/QUOTE]
It is a great cycle with low sides Einstein

I bet you would advise him to do a D-bol only cycle...LMAO  

09 Feb 2006 22:06
canibalistic_js
[QUOTE=Patrick_Bateman]It is a great cycle with low sides Einstein

I bet you would advise him to do a D-bol only cycle...LMAO[/QUOTE]

That's not very nice. Keep it above the belt...:D  

09 Feb 2006 22:13
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]That's not very nice. Keep it above the belt...:D[/QUOTE]
Hey when a prick flames me I flame back :thumbs:  

09 Feb 2006 22:14
canibalistic_js
[QUOTE=Patrick_Bateman]Hey when a prick flames me I flame back :thumbs:[/QUOTE]

I think he was just saying longer esters should be ran for a longer duration.  

09 Feb 2006 22:18
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]I think he was just saying longer esters should be ran for a longer duration.[/QUOTE]
I know what he thinks about that subject, but the way he said it was very rude......and he is also wrong.  

09 Feb 2006 22:22
Bigdog Leo
Patric would Einstein be a better cycle than Test?  

09 Feb 2006 23:10
Storm
[QUOTE=Patrick_Bateman]Hey when a prick flames me I flame back :thumbs:[/QUOTE]



Prick huh how about we see pics of your oh so ever big ass..Keep it up asswipe he did not direct call you anything just your shitty advie on a cycle which it was..Care to compare genetics?? Didn't think so...I like it how you blow your top on how many mgs on a cycle but when i looked back on only your 5th cycle your ass is busting in the 1500mgs mark or more..Hmmmm only your 5th cycle huh why you really are an expert....  

09 Feb 2006 23:15
regino007
[QUOTE=Bigdog Leo]Patric would Einstein be a better cycle than Test?[/QUOTE]
I hope you're kidding, right?  

09 Feb 2006 23:24
cwshorns
uh oh, the sleeping giant has been awoken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

09 Feb 2006 23:24
canibalistic_js
I just read that....Is he serious?  

09 Feb 2006 23:25
estray
I think it was an ill attempt at humor.  

09 Feb 2006 23:26
cwshorns
...surely he doesn't think test e is short for einstein????....  

09 Feb 2006 23:27
Bigdog Leo
Just a joke guys wanted to change the direction this was going...  

10 Feb 2006 00:01
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=Storm]Prick huh how about we see pics of your oh so ever big ass..Keep it up asswipe he did not direct call you anything just your shitty advie on a cycle which it was..[B]Care to compare genetics?? Didn't think so.[/B]..I like it how you blow your top on how many mgs on a cycle but when i looked back on only your 5th cycle your ass is busting in the 1500mgs mark or more..Hmmmm only your 5th cycle huh why you really are an expert....[/QUOTE]I would love to compair genetics...after taking 3 years off all weight lifting and only back for 7 months now, I am only up to 250 right now......but could drop 15 lbs of fat.....I will post some pics in the next week or two buddy...:thumbs:


And my cycle posts were only a joke.....I do 500mg test and 600mg EQ for 8 or 10 weeks....mostly 8 weeks..Smile  

10 Feb 2006 00:50
Storm
Really so this 5th cycle you posted about and got advice on was a total joke huh?? Yea right...

http://www.bbforums.com/showthread.php?t=4025  

10 Feb 2006 02:11
Storm
Even better since if you were off for 3 years then your exp with cycles is even less you even had me going like you have had many mnay cyces under your belt and had alot of exp when truth is you don't..So please your still in baby stages yourself on cycles so stop acting like your some old school bro who has been though it all b/c your not even close..That is how you come across..I even though you were older then me I got only a year on you in age but a ton more exp in this lifestlye then you will ever have...  

10 Feb 2006 02:15
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=Storm]Really so this 5th cycle you posted about and got advice on was a total joke huh?? Yea right...

http://www.bbforums.com/showthread.php?t=4025[/QUOTE]
Yes it was......it is the internet bro, do you really think I would post my exact date of birth, locatioon ect :confused:

I couldnt care less if you believe it or not bro.  

10 Feb 2006 02:15
Storm
Oh gawd are you really going to take that road?? Yea I don't belive you even more so now that you want to back peddle... Don't even bother in posting pics I am sure they won't be of you...So what it is the internet woohooo been doing htis for over 6 years...What the big deal?  

10 Feb 2006 02:19
canibalistic_js
OMG, I know remember when he posed a 16 year old gay kid from Jearsey? Then, his age changed...Since then he keeps pming asking for my stats and how close I have gotten with a spotter.  

10 Feb 2006 02:31
canibalistic_js
Not sure about this guy...  

10 Feb 2006 02:32
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=Storm]Oh gawd are you really going to take that road?? Yea I don't belive you even more so now that you want to back peddle... Don't even bother in posting pics I am sure they won't be of you...So what it is the internet woohooo been doing htis for over 6 years...What the big deal?[/QUOTE]
Ok buddy, back down from the pic contest....I expected as much from you.  

10 Feb 2006 02:33
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]OMG, I know remember when he posed a 16 year old gay kid from Jearsey? Then, his age changed...[B]Since then he keeps pming asking for my stats and how close I have gotten with a spotter[/B].[/QUOTE]
True story  

10 Feb 2006 02:34
Storm
Fist of all I am not your buddy second I think it is pretty clear your a fckn fake so your now that we know your full of caca the game is over you talked all your crap so there is realy no need for you to prove anything at all as I do not need ot prove anything either I am who I am and I have proven that you just another wannabe who made up a identity so you can live a fantasy and now it has been brought to light..

Your nothing new PB I have seen plenty of fakes as yourself many times over the years full of excuses but little to show..Feel free to prove me wrong I am man enough to take back most of what I said about you being a fake but I doubt that will happen everything about you is full of holes...  

10 Feb 2006 02:40
bleeke
Storm, your my favorite superhero!  

10 Feb 2006 02:42
Storm
that was a bleeke statement...Hahahahaha jst messing..Thanks callin it like I see it as usual...  

10 Feb 2006 02:55
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=Storm]Fist of all I am not your buddy second I think it is pretty clear your a fckn fake so your now that we know your full of caca the game is over you talked all your crap so there is realy no need for you to prove anything at all as I do not need ot prove anything either I am who I am and I have proven that you just another wannabe who made up a identity so you can live a fantasy and now it has been brought to light..

Your nothing new PB I have seen plenty of fakes as yourself many times over the years full of excuses but little to show..Feel free to prove me wrong I am man enough to take back most of what I said about you being a fake but I doubt that will happen everything about you is full of holes...[/QUOTE]
You are very angry and judgemental.....why??? Life is great, so enjoy it. If you are insecure about yourself and your achievements then I think you should work harder to achieve your goals. But if you like you can sit back and judge people you don't even know......I personally don't give a crap what some internet phoney thinks of me....I know who I am and what I have done, and thats good enough for me...
Peace  

10 Feb 2006 03:02
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=Storm]Even better since if you were off for 3 years then your exp with cycles is even less you even had me going like you have had many mnay cyces under your belt and had alot of exp when truth is you don't..So please your still in baby stages yourself on cycles so stop acting like your some old school bro who has been though it all b/c your not even close..That is how you come across..I even though you were older then me I got only a year on you in age but a ton more exp in this lifestlye then you will ever have...[/QUOTE]
Like I said :aah: why the hell would I post my birthday, address and social security # on the net :rolleyes: The fact is I am older than you and have done more cycles than you have...but who cares. If you want to see who can piss the most then have at it.....when you have lived this life for 26 years let me know son.  

10 Feb 2006 03:07
Storm
Wow funny how your all sweet and nice now that you have been called out..Phoney?? Really?? Please tell me oh great one what is phoney about me what have I done that was misleading or fake or as you put it phoney?? I am far from angry or judgemental and nowhere near as you have proven time and time again..I don;t need to know you personally kidd your a fake and that has been proven yes you know who you are and it is no where near what you pose as on here so deal with the fact you have been called out b/c your bullcrap caught up to you...

Life is great and I enjoy it everyday but I wil not tolerate a fake as yourslef on here handing out advice that you have no idea about nor have exp with...  

10 Feb 2006 03:09
Storm
[QUOTE=Patrick_Bateman]Like I said :aah: why the hell would I post my birthday, address and social security # on the net :rolleyes: The fact is I am older than you and have done more cycles than you have...but who cares. If you want to see who can piss the most then have at it.....when you have lived this life for 26 years let me know son.[/QUOTE]



Hhahahahahahah ummm hahahahahahhaa errr ahahahahahahahaha...Yea whatever you say old timer..Why post up any info at all then??? If you are as old as you say then it wouldn't matter..Kind of childish to act that way don;t ya think..Opps sorry i guess your in the early stages of halfheimers you only know half of what you say...You are so full of crap keep it up you just make it worse with every post..  

10 Feb 2006 03:12
bleeke
"Im older than you."
"na ah, I am"
"I did more cycles than you"
"My dad could beat up your dad"
i remember this type of conversation going back at least 20 years.  

10 Feb 2006 03:15
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=Storm]Wow funny how your all sweet and nice now that you have been called out..Phoney?? Really?? Please tell me oh great one what is phoney about me what have I done that was misleading or fake or as you put it phoney?? I am far from angry or judgemental and nowhere near as you have proven time and time again..I don;t need to know you personally kidd your a fake and that has been proven yes you know who you are and it is no where near what you pose as on here so deal with the fact you have been called out b/c your bullcrap caught up to you...

Life is great and I enjoy it everyday but I wil not tolerate a fake as yourslef on here handing out advice that you have no idea about nor have exp with...[/QUOTE]
I was not being sweet...I was doing what I always do...posting what I believe...and also trying not to sink to your level.

And I post one joke cycle and now I'm a phoney....wow bro you need help.....hope you never become a judge, because you seem to be quick to judge and use 0 facts when you do it......and I have nothing on you when it comes to braging...LMAO  

10 Feb 2006 03:15
bleeke
i dont think posting a "joke" cycle is a very intelligent thing to do on a forum where people come for advice.  

10 Feb 2006 03:17
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=Storm]Hhahahahahahah ummm hahahahahahhaa errr ahahahahahahahaha...Yea whatever you say old timer..Why post up any info at all then??? If you are as old as you say then it wouldn't matter..Kind of childish to act that way don;t ya think..Opps sorry i guess your in the early stages of halfheimers you only know half of what you say...You are so full of crap keep it up you just make it worse with every post..[/QUOTE]
Sorry son but I have been on this site long enough to see you and many other members recomend steroid cycles to 18 and 19 year old kids....[B]pathetic and irresponsible[/B]. When you stop acting like a child I might listen to what you have to say.  

10 Feb 2006 03:18
canibalistic_js
Halfheimers...ROTFLMAO...good stuff, only you...  

10 Feb 2006 03:20
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=bleeke]i dont think posting a "joke" cycle is a very intelligent thing to do on a forum where people come for advice.[/QUOTE]
I respect your feelings.....I thought I would see the steroid mantality of the board by doing that......and it looked like most were giving good advice.:thumbs:  

10 Feb 2006 03:20
canibalistic_js
[QUOTE=bleeke]i dont think posting a "joke" cycle is a very intelligent thing to do on a forum where people come for advice.[/QUOTE]

Damn that's a good point Bleeke  

10 Feb 2006 03:21
canibalistic_js
So it was a so called "test"  

10 Feb 2006 03:22
bleeke
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js]Damn that's a good point Bleeke[/QUOTE]
thanks canibalistic, im 28 and proud that i have waited this long to try anything. im about ready and have it but still learning and doing research. i am constanly reading and taking advice from everyone here and that could be very dangerous or lifethreatening to take or follow someones bogus advice.  

10 Feb 2006 03:27
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=bleeke]thanks canibalistic, im 28 and proud that i have waited this long to try anything. im about ready and have it but still learning and doing research. i am constanly reading and taking advice from everyone here and that could be very dangerous or lifethreatening to take or follow someones bogus advice.[/QUOTE]
Please name one time I gave bad steroid advise..........nope I didn't think you could .Smile  

10 Feb 2006 03:31
bleeke
[QUOTE=Patrick_Bateman]Please name one time I gave bad steroid advise..........nope I didn't think you could .Smile[/QUOTE]
not necessarily advice but if i was to follow the cycle you posted.  

10 Feb 2006 03:32
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=bleeke]not necessarily advice but if i was to follow the cycle you posted.[/QUOTE]
I would never follow another persons cycle.....and the one I posted was far safer than any the pro's and top amatures do......get a grip kid I never posted any crazy cycle or cycle advise.

crazy???? hell no
http://www.bbforums.com/showpost.php?p=30349&postcount=1

Is this one crazy??? nope it is exactly the cycle I am on right now
http://www.bbforums.com/showpost.php?p=31009&postcount=1  

10 Feb 2006 03:34
bleeke
i wasnt around for it im just going by the previous quotes. dont worry i got a grip boy.  

10 Feb 2006 03:38
Patrick_Bateman
[QUOTE=bleeke]i wasnt around for it im just going by the previous quotes. dont worry i got a grip boy.[/QUOTE]
No, you have dog mentality and are attacking what the pack attacks..Smile  

10 Feb 2006 03:39

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