Does this bulker/cutter make sense?

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bill1234
Stats:
Age:22
Height:5'8"
Weight:207
BF: estimated at 15%

Ok, currently 18 days into this cycle:

Wk 1-4 dbol 35mg ed
Wk 1-10 deca 300mg wk
Wk 1-10 test e 600mg wk

Thinking about extending the cycle and turning it into a cutter, here is what I was thinking, let me know if it makes any sense.

Wk 1-4 dbol 35mg ed
Wk 1-10 deca 300mg wk
Wk 1-16 test e 600mg wk
Wk 11-16 tren 75-100mg eod

-currently taking in approximately 4,500 calories. Starting week 11 I am gonna reduce the calories to 2,000 to 2,500.

-also probably gonna add ephedrine week 11-16 at 50mg 2X daily.

-pct is clomid:
day 1: 300mg
day 2-11 100mg
day 12-28 50mg  

13 Oct 2005 19:36

jcvaughn26
ya it make sense pretty good cycle IMO. I was looking at doing a similar cycle a while back. Have you ran tren of deca before? If you have and didn't have any problems recovering or libido problems it would be great, but if you did have problems I would make sure you have some bromo on hand, and/or wait a week between the deca and tren. If you wanted at the end of wk16 you could drop the test E and switch to prop or suspension until PCT. Just and idea since you'll have to wait to start PCT for the long ester to clear. Oh and I definetly recommend HCG in someway, depends on how you prefer to run it.  

13 Oct 2005 20:17
TomSizeMore
I'll mask what jcvaughn just said. good advice.  

13 Oct 2005 20:31
bill1234
Was thinking of adding clen to the mix, I was thinking something like this:

clen weeks 11-12 and 15-16 and running the ephedrine weeks 13-14. What do you guys think about this? good idea or no. Im currently at around 15%, would like to get to atleast 12% by the end of the cycle. Do you think this is a realistic goal?  

18 Oct 2005 06:30
jcvaughn26
ya that sounds good, also sounds like a reasonable goal.  

18 Oct 2005 07:11
bill1234
Thanks.  

18 Oct 2005 14:56
TomSizeMore
There's no reason you can't be down under 7% if you do it right. I would just add Winstrol weeks 10-16 or Anavar, but I've personally never had any experience with Anavar.

I love following up bulkers with cutters, seems to make it all worth while.  

18 Oct 2005 19:28
bill1234
[QUOTE=TomSizeMore]There's no reason you can't be down under 7% if you do it right. I would just add Winstrol weeks 10-16 or Anavar, but I've personally never had any experience with Anavar.

I love following up bulkers with cutters, seems to make it all worth while.[/QUOTE]

Thanks man, I saw your pictures and that was a crazy transformation in only 14 weeks. If you dont mind, I was curious as to what your cycle was, maybe you could pm it to me if you dont mind?  

18 Oct 2005 19:34
TomSizeMore
I don't mind. i went with 6iu/day HGH, Sust250 EOD for all 14 weeks and D'bol for the first 5 weeks. The last 7 weeks I ran Winstrol at 50mg ED.

First 7 Weeks, I ate all I could and kept it clean, last 7 weeks, I just reduced the portions on each serving.

BTW... I think your shortsiding yourself on the caloric intake. i haven't eaten 2000 calories in a day since I was a pre teen. I would just add in cardio (don't do any cardio for the first 8 weeks!) the last 8 weeks of your 16 week cycle. Reason I say not to do cardio the first 8 weeks is your body is going to respond ALOT better to it if you leave it out. Also, if you can get some Clen/T3 this will allow you to keep up your 4000 calorie diet and lose fat at the same time. You'll be highly anabolic with the Tren, so you shouldn't lose muscle mass.  

18 Oct 2005 20:36
bill1234
[QUOTE=TomSizeMore]I don't mind. i went with 6iu/day HGH, Sust250 EOD for all 14 weeks and D'bol for the first 5 weeks. The last 7 weeks I ran Winstrol at 50mg ED.

First 7 Weeks, I ate all I could and kept it clean, last 7 weeks, I just reduced the portions on each serving.

BTW... I think your shortsiding yourself on the caloric intake. i haven't eaten 2000 calories in a day since I was a pre teen. I would just add in cardio (don't do any cardio for the first 8 weeks!) the last 8 weeks of your 16 week cycle. Reason I say not to do cardio the first 8 weeks is your body is going to respond ALOT better to it if you leave it out. Also, if you can get some Clen/T3 this will allow you to keep up your 4000 calorie diet and lose fat at the same time. You'll be highly anabolic with the Tren, so you shouldn't lose muscle mass.[/QUOTE]

Thanks man, thats some good advice. I can get some clen/t3 (damn research liquid crap) a little skeptical on the t3 as i heard the sides can be pretty bad...  

18 Oct 2005 21:00
TomSizeMore
Only sides are sweating profusely. Other than that, I've never had any major issues.  

18 Oct 2005 21:12
bill1234
[QUOTE=TomSizeMore]Only sides are sweating profusely. Other than that, I've never had any major issues.[/QUOTE]

Ok, I can handle that. sounds good, Ill probably give it a try. Thanks.  

18 Oct 2005 22:02
canibalistic_js
and the shakes atleast that's what I get.  

18 Oct 2005 22:22
bill1234
Ok, got my clen and t3. started clen on sunday. gonna run clen 3 weeks and then t3 3 weeks. My question is, how would the guys that have run t3 recomend i run it, given this is my first time with this drug. I know it is important to taper off, but is it equally as important to ramp up the dosage as well? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Sorry if this doesnt make alot of sense, im in a hurry.  

09 Nov 2005 19:25
bill1234
[QUOTE=bill1234]Ok, got my clen and t3. started clen on sunday. gonna run clen 3 weeks and then t3 3 weeks. My question is, how would the guys that have run t3 recomend i run it, given this is my first time with this drug. I know it is important to taper off, but is it equally as important to ramp up the dosage as well? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Sorry if this doesnt make alot of sense, im in a hurry.[/QUOTE]

b u m p  

10 Nov 2005 01:57
canibalistic_js
Yes, ramp up and down I start at around 50-100mcgs. I was doing two weeks on and a few days off then back on but it was recommended to me to do two days on and two days off.  

10 Nov 2005 02:00
canibalistic_js
But normally you will hear 2 weeks on and two off.  

10 Nov 2005 02:02
bill1234
thanks  

10 Nov 2005 02:38

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