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pappy
I am 5ft5in 185lbs about 12%body fat 40 years old,iam starting a cycle of tren.Was wondering a dose to start with weekly.beginner cycle.Been training about 30 years 10 serious.  

22 Aug 2008 09:21

canibalistic_js
Just Tren? tha'ts not a good idea to run it by itself -  

22 Aug 2008 09:35
estray
Lol

Tren is not a beginner cycle.


Google 'Testosterone cycles'. Proceed from there.  

22 Aug 2008 10:12
canibalistic_js
pappy
thanks for the advise,i understant tren is strong but would i see improvement on 50mgs a week,what also is wrong with just tren?just tring to get as much info as possible again thanks  

23 Aug 2008 10:38
bignready
test test test  

23 Aug 2008 20:02
canibalistic_js
50mgs is not the right amount to run at all bro~ :D Tren has a half-life of like 72 hours because its an acetate ester. So No its not a good dose maybe 50mgs every other day.  

23 Aug 2008 21:23
estray
Canni, the active life of tren is 2 days. Half life has never been measured to my knowledge but it would have to be less than 2 days. Many believe its around 24 hours. Last time i ran tren i used 100mg eod and i got night sweats, insomnia, oily skin, etc. Im using it now at a higher dose of 85mg ED and not having any of those sides. If youre gonna run it you gotta suck it up and go ED imo.



So anyhow, what do you newbs got against test? Its what the body runs on for christs sake. lol



2 major reasons tren is not for beginners.

1- Frequency of injects. You can get away with eod injections but ideally you need to do it every day. I do. For someone whos never stuck a needle in themselves thats a tall order. Run a cycle of test where you only need to inject once a week and get the hang of it first. Learn to walk before you run.

2- Sides are much harsher than test. Night sweats, insomnia, crazy ass dreams, mood swings, acne, hair loss, and the feared tren cough. Ive only had it happen once but it sucks bad. For a newb it would probably scare you enough to quit altogether.  

24 Aug 2008 02:18
bignready
you obviously dont have a gf.and if you do,you wont once the tren kicks in.she might want to be with a guy who can get hard.GET SOME TEST  

24 Aug 2008 02:31
canibalistic_js
[QUOTE=estray;89729]Canni, the active life of tren is 2 days. Half life has never been measured to my knowledge but it would have to be less than 2 days. Many believe its around 24 hours. Last time i ran tren i used 100mg eod and i got night sweats, insomnia, oily skin, etc. Im using it now at a higher dose of 85mg ED and not having any of those sides. If youre gonna run it you gotta suck it up and go ED imo.



So anyhow, what do you newbs got against test? Its what the body runs on for christs sake. lol



2 major reasons tren is not for beginners.

1- Frequency of injects. You can get away with eod injections but ideally you need to do it every day. I do. For someone whos never stuck a needle in themselves thats a tall order. Run a cycle of test where you only need to inject once a week and get the hang of it first. Learn to walk before you run.

2- Sides are much harsher than test. Night sweats, insomnia, crazy ass dreams, mood swings, acne, hair loss, and the feared tren cough. Ive only had it happen once but it sucks bad. For a newb it would probably scare you enough to quit altogether.[/QUOTE]

Ok Estray I understand you think you know everything because your a mod on your friends board but if you know anything about chemistry you understand half-life and what exactly acetate is and yes tren lasts up to 48-72 hours depending on dose and person so as usual you're knowledge is wrong again please don't have a conniption because it will only prove the other point I'm going to make.

I have seen the diagram containing half-life for trenbolone acetate, parabolan, and Tren enanthate and it actually takes 24-48 hours just to peak in your blood then its another 24-48 to work out of the body. Obviously you haven't and as most of your arguments lack empirical evidence as usual I'll use some just to reiterate my point if need be. Anyhow, Estray I would also like to add that you actually get side effects quite often raging on the board every now and then, thought you should know ~ Its frustrating seeing you always try to address me like this and see you not know your stuff as much as you come across ~ Do you really know what you're putting in your body estray?  

24 Aug 2008 04:14
estray
You said tren has a half life of 72 hours. Its a known fact that trens active life is 24-48 hours. The half life cant be longer than the active life idiot. Maybe you need to take a chemistry primer.

Im a mod on Steroidology, one of the largest steroid boards on the net. Youre an annoying little kid who likes to hang on a board with 5 members and run his mouth like hes king shit. Most of the garbage you spew is completely innaccurate. I invite you to come on over to Ology some time and enlighten us with all your knowledge buddy. Ill enjoy watching you get shredded to pieces.


Have a good night.  

24 Aug 2008 04:58
canibalistic_js
You're just mad because I'm more attractive than you and I look better than you :Dlol Fatty !! hahahahaahaha and you know what actually a lot of people like me because I actually take the time to help people. Youre the ahole thinking I'm annoying I actually think people like me generally speaking.  

24 Aug 2008 05:55
csyflt
Alright felloes lets cut the crap. No matter what is said here about tren, I will say that cani has gave a whole lot more helpful info than you estray.  

24 Aug 2008 07:26
estray
[QUOTE=canibalistic_js;89739]You're just mad because I'm more attractive than you and I look better than you :Dlol Fatty !! hahahahaahaha and you know what actually a lot of people like me because I actually take the time to help people. Youre the ahole thinking I'm annoying I actually think people like me generally speaking.[/QUOTE]

Lol, im sitting at 10% and have been for almost 6 months now. Fatty huh? Great playground comeback kid.  

24 Aug 2008 07:54
estray
[QUOTE=csyflt;89747]Alright felloes lets cut the crap. No matter what is said here about tren, I will say that cani has gave a whole lot more helpful info than you estray.[/QUOTE]

Misinformation doesnt count.  

24 Aug 2008 07:55
bblondon
[QUOTE=estray;89738]You said tren has a half life of 72 hours. Its a known fact that trens active life is 24-48 hours. The half life cant be longer than the active life idiot. Maybe you need to take a chemistry primer.

Im a mod on Steroidology, one of the largest steroid boards on the net. Youre an annoying little kid who likes to hang on a board with 5 members and run his mouth like hes king shit. Most of the garbage you spew is completely innaccurate. I invite you to come on over to Ology some time and enlighten us with all your knowledge buddy. Ill enjoy watching you get shredded to pieces.


Have a good night.[/QUOTE]

Wow estray... you can go ahead and step down off your high horse. Unless YOU have a chemistry lab in your friggin basement, then you have to go by information from other sources.
How about Steroid.com...
"The acetate ester is a very short-chain ester attached to the trenbolone molecule. It has an active life of 2-3 days but to keep blood levels of trenbolone elevated and steady, daily injections are often recommended."
2-3 days... so looks like 48-72 hrs...
Maybe you should lay OFF the tren... calm yourself down. Dont call names, and occasionally you be calm enough to provide information that is actually helpful on here. Its like you never pop up until you think you have the opportunity to beat someone down. Take some happy pills and chill out. :banghead:
Cani has helped a whole lot more people on this board then you have and can personally attest to it and its positive effects... :thumbs:  

24 Aug 2008 13:52
bblondon
Oh here are some site links that you may want to read up on before you shoot your mouth off...
http://www.steroid.com/Trenbolone-Acetate.php
www.knujon.com/schedule3/http___trenaplexa100.net_.pdf
I have more if that doesnt cut it for ya.
I know you say your a mod on steroidology... but I would personally bet that Steroid.com is a more reliable source of information then you... so if your talking about giving misinformation, maybe you should stop telling people its a 'fact' when it apparently is 'not'.  

24 Aug 2008 14:04
csyflt
At least we all know the most common injections is every other day!  

24 Aug 2008 17:45
estray
[QUOTE=csyflt;89771]At least we all know the most common injections is every other day![/QUOTE]

No its not. The vast majority of experienced tren ace users inject ED. I doubt if cannis ever even used tren.



Furthermore, read BB londons quote from steroid.com. It even says it should be injected ED.  

24 Aug 2008 22:04
estray
[QUOTE=bblondon;89758]Wow estray... you can go ahead and step down off your high horse. Unless YOU have a chemistry lab in your friggin basement, then you have to go by information from other sources.
How about Steroid.com...
"The acetate ester is a very short-chain ester attached to the trenbolone molecule. [SIZE="5"][B]It has an active life of 2-3 days but to keep blood levels of trenbolone elevated and steady, daily injections are often recommended."[/B][/SIZE]
2-3 days... so looks like 48-72 hrs...
Maybe you should lay OFF the tren... calm yourself down. Dont call names, and occasionally you be calm enough to provide information that is actually helpful on here. Its like you never pop up until you think you have the opportunity to beat someone down. Take some happy pills and chill out. :banghead:
Cani has helped a whole lot more people on this board then you have and can personally attest to it and its positive effects... :thumbs:[/QUOTE]


There it is right there in bold. Active life of 48-72 hours. I will reiterate again since i seem to be dealing with morons here, Half life and active life are not the same thing. He said it had half life of 72 hours(see post 7) which anyone with basic chemistry knowledge knows thats impossible if the max active life is that long.

Furthermore there it is right in boldface that you should inject every day. Cannis telling people thats not necessary and to inject EOD(see also post 7). Just bad all around info.

I simply pointed out his mistake and he went off on me. I wasnt condescending or anything yet he fired back so now the gloves are off. I think its funny that his girlfriend has to run to his rescue. He must be a real man, huh?

Im simply sick of people giving out steroid advice that dont know what the **** therye talking about or even worse, people handing out advice that have never even used gear at all, especially dumb whores.


So shut the fvck up you stupid worthless cunt. Go make yourself useful and fix me a sandwich.





This board has become completely useless. It only has a half dozen active members and half of them are idiots, the mods are never here, and its completely overrun with porn spam. The steroid profiles are a mess and arent even organized in any fashion. Good job on that one Cannibal, ever heard of this thing called alphabetical order? I dont know why they even bother to keep it around. Storm, im done here so feel free to delete my account as i wont be coming back anymore.  

24 Aug 2008 22:11
Storm
Yea please leave this board can be more active then some of the big board so how about you shut your ****ing mouth since you want to throw attitude towards me..I am here almost everyday and we are delaing witht he pron problem the best we can since the owner never come on here so why dont you go find attention somewhere else kid..If I could delete your account I would be happy to so stay off of here you serve no purpose at all..Half of both your posts counts are from whoring up the board anyways with crap so dont kidd yourselves.  

24 Aug 2008 23:16
csyflt
Thank you very much STORM!  

25 Aug 2008 05:55
canibalistic_js
I think he's been on Tren way too long he's normally not as stubborn and stupid. Anyways I love how you had to change all your posts because you realized your incompetent. :D lmao and I love you all who backed me up.  

25 Aug 2008 23:08
csyflt
Yeah buddy  

26 Aug 2008 01:15
Morgan
wow how in the world did i miss this one??  

26 Aug 2008 01:40
csyflt
LMAO! I dont know what got in estrays soup but wow!  

26 Aug 2008 01:41
canibalistic_js
It was tren I told you! :D  

26 Aug 2008 01:49
bignready
i have to believe it is tren.and too high a dose  

26 Aug 2008 04:38
bblondon
UGH what an jerk.. I JUST read his response... Stupid F***stick. Im glad he's gone, polluting every thread on here with his BS. But damn I hope that some girl screws him up so badly that he realizes that he is as worthless as he is. His ego was entirely to big for even the internet. Bigger then what im sure he was trying so hard to compensate for... :laughing:  

31 Aug 2008 10:08
truluv4me2008
hi. Im new to this site and have no clue what to do. im trying to find out about a few things..any ideas.  

19 Sep 2008 01:49
truluv4me2008
hi..im new to this site. can sombody hep me out...lol..im lookin for weight loss. I was told to use clen or t3...not sure.any info is helpful  

19 Sep 2008 01:54
jcvaughn26
[QUOTE=truluv4me2008;91359]hi..im new to this site. can sombody hep me out...lol..im lookin for weight loss. I was told to use clen or t3...not sure.any info is helpful[/QUOTE]

First off start your own thread.  

19 Sep 2008 02:26

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