help with my first cycle please

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birdie
hi, im 17 and weigh 65 kilos, 2 of my mates are on a cycle of sustanole and deca 50, i was thinin bout goin on a cycle of dianabol, deca 50, and sustonon 250. i was wonderin if it woud be safe to do this for my first cycle and if so, when do i know when to take an anti-e??  

06 Sep 2004 13:49

Durabolin
hello Birdie and welcome to the board!

First off at 17 you are far too young to be using steroids. Doing so will stop your bones growing so if you haven't stopped growing which is very likely the case you will be stay shorter than you would have been. Secondly mate at 65kgs or 143lbs you are far too light to consider using steroids. How tall are you?

Also how long have you been weight lifting and how do you train at the moment? At your bodyweight there is simply no need to take steroids, and you can acheive equally good results in a short space of time training naturally and correctly. Let us know bro.  

06 Sep 2004 15:03
TAPOUT1
Durabolin is a 100% right, far to young. all you will do is hurt yourself in the long run. But you willl prob do what you want anyway. I think deca 50 is far to low of a mg per ml. you will be putting so much oil in your body. I would chose a diff one. SUST is not for newbi's it is a everyday shot drug. I dont think you are ready for that. I am sure your mates aren't running it like that. if they arent then they dont understand how sust works.

I am not trying to flame you, just trying to let you know how it is.  

06 Sep 2004 18:36
Smallguy
I agree with above posts


Smallguy  

06 Sep 2004 19:46
Storm
Ask again when your over 21...Your friends are idiots and don't have the balls to do the work to get a great body..Tell them you plan to build up an awesome base before you try out gear and trust me by then what they have now will be your natural base..
Once you do decide to use gear you will blow them all out of the water b/c your work ethic is what got you there NOT THE GEAR...Being a mature man is a big step from acting like a foolish kid..Be the man bro...Oh and if you want motivation check out my pics I didn't start until I was 23...Storm  

06 Sep 2004 20:27
Durabolin
[QUOTE=Storm]Ask again when your over 21...Your friends are idiots and don't have the balls to do the work to get a great body..Tell them you plan to build up an awesome base before you try out gear and trust me by then what they have now will be your natural base..
Once you do decide to use gear you will blow them all out of the water b/c your work ethic is what got you there NOT THE GEAR...Being a mature man is a big step from acting like a foolish kid..Be the man bro...Oh and if you want motivation check out my pics I didn't start until I was 23...Storm[/QUOTE]

Great post Storm. I am would bet that your friend's Birdie who are taking steroids already are a flash in the pan, as in they won't be training in 2 or 3 years time. People with so little patience to jump straight on the gear don't have the patience to stick with training  

06 Sep 2004 21:01
jcvaughn26
Agree with you all. Tapout1 I have heard of people using Susta 2x a week getting good gains, I've actually found that seems to be the one of the common first cycles, althought I wouldn't recommend it. I know what you mean though with the mixed esters to get the full benefit EOD or ED would be ideal.  

06 Sep 2004 23:09
TAPOUT1
ya just seems like a waste of money when you could just run enanthate like that  

07 Sep 2004 00:34
jcvaughn26
[QUOTE=TAPOUT1]ya just seems like a waste of money when you could just run enanthate like that[/QUOTE]


Yep, that was my first enanthate, dbol, eq  

07 Sep 2004 04:52
birdie
yeah one of my mates is 17 aswell is about 6 foot 5 and weighs 65 kilos aswell, he been on sustanole and deca for 4 weeks and i cant see no gains, and my other mate is massive hes 18 hes finished his cycle of deca and sustanole, he is massive, he weighs 86 kilos and is 6 foot 2, he trains hard, and just started a cycle of sumtin startin with c i forget what it called.
me and the big dude (dave) have been tarinin for 2 years not very hard and me and him were on insuline for a little wile, we put in 5 units evrytime we trained, ive been lookin for sumitn to help me with my shoulder because i had a shoulder reconstruction last year and my left arms is a little bitch now, since it i lost 5 kilos. i don have much time to go to the gym and diet and stuff because i have my hsc cummin up. and dave when on the roids and saw the gains and they were crazy, i wanna get like that. use recon i could get 2, 210 pounds naturaly in not 2 long?? any wayz thanx for your help. o yeah buy the way im 6 foot 2.  

07 Sep 2004 13:55
Smallguy
it took me several years ot go from 140 -195 naturally 3 or 4 I beleive


Smallguy  

07 Sep 2004 15:38
jcvaughn26
if you can't get to the gym on a regular basis you shouldn't get on the juice anyway, other then just being too young. I'd wait to mature. I graduated high school at 175lbs and naturally in a year was up to 220lbs. I didn't get any taller but definetly broader. I didn't even really lift that was just me maturing. I didn't increase a little bit bf wise but not much at all. I was 10-11% all through out high school and 13.7% first year in college (beer does that I suppose). Also I wouldn't play around with slin bro, you better have some serious research. That goes for any chemical you are putting in your body, but one possible side of slin is death. So be extremely careful. If you had shoulder surgery go to physical therapy you'll come out of it 2x a strong alot of times. It sounds like you are looking for shortcuts, the fastest shortcut is to failure. Reach your genetic potential, don't ruin your first cycle because you don't have enough time, and don't stunt your growth even if you aren't growing any taller doesn't mean you aren't growing. Good luck bro, I hope you listen to us wait until you get older.  

07 Sep 2004 17:47
TAPOUT1
you already ran insulin. Do you have a death wish bro. did you say you would shoot 5 ius b4 you would work out. that is ****in nuts.  

07 Sep 2004 21:52
TAPOUT1
there is a filter on here, LMFAO. WEAK!!!!!  

07 Sep 2004 21:55
serious newbie
Sometimes I wish I was 17 again. "Roids" would be totally unnecessary. There are so many hormones in your blood that your receptors are probably already saturated. Young people don't seem to understand that there are two parts to the effect of these drugs. First you raise the levels in your bloodstream. Second it needs to be utilized by attaching to various points in the body and activating different metabolic processes. At your age your body is saturating every possible receptor.

Your friend would be making the same gains without the gear. If you eat like a horse and train a lot you will be fine. Taking gear with no training is like pissing in the wind. And when you are 25 it will come back and hit you in the face.  

08 Sep 2004 08:37
birdie
thanx for your help guys, ye so insulin was bad?? it was humalog the one we were usein i don think that was bad and we were injectin it after our work out, we started off wit 5 units then i got up 2 9, but my mate keeped on goin and got up to 5 in the morning and then 5 in the arvo, he ended up with a bold patch on teh bak of his head. so u guys recon i would get teh same gains off naturaly then with juice, ill take u guys word for it, i gonna get some good protein powder see how that goes. but if i do go on em could u tell us more info bout it because i been tryin to get info but the people round here donno shit, i know more than most of em. most of them say that all if i start young i will get same sidaffects as if i wa older. but that i will just get roid ragg realy bad. that doesnt realy bother me. anyways i gtg ill talk to use later thanx again for your help.  

08 Sep 2004 12:18
TAPOUT1
never feel like you cant ask questions bro, always ask that is how you learn.  

09 Sep 2004 17:22
Storm
Read between his lines I don't belive he is going to listen...  

09 Sep 2004 17:38

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